低號數機油高溫保護不足??真的嗎?


newskyline wrote:
我在想應該爬坡拉轉加上速度慢撞風不夠導致機油溫度過高然後變稀~
所以機油壓力就比較低然後就亮燈了

果然.....跟我猜得沒錯....機油稀薄化了...造成油壓不足的假象...所以就亮燈了..



hjack wrote:
你開太快了,離心力導致抽不到油,請參考乾式油底殼。

大哥.....我的車....只是國產車...不是超跑...乾式油槽....只有超跑才有..
01小十字 wrote:
果然.....跟我猜...(恕刪)

大部份車都沒有,稍微熱一點大家都有機會遇到,平地沒叫就沒事,不要持續叫(吸\打不到油)就沒事。
'菸斗郎 wrote:
吃機油的車,你用看看20或30~馬上固路給你看...(恕刪)

如果我家會漏水~我絕對不會怪水~
會吃機油吃較兇~是引擎出了問題~
bestalfred wrote:
請問你有騎機車嗎? 一般機車原廠皆建議1000公里換機油 騎到7.800公里,如果你夠細心,是真的可以感覺的出來油門反應的不同(恕刪)

以下文章轉貼michaelbay網友的文章
原討論串111樓
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------以下原文

台灣國產的那幾個機車品牌不是常常被嫌的一無是處?
怎麼他們豪小出來的1000公里換機油卻被很多人奉為神主牌?

看看日本HONDA怎麼說吧


不過總是有人會說日本製品質好 , 日本氣候溫和
OK!那看看越南HONDA怎麼說吧


所以..........
台灣的氣候已經比越南更炎熱更潮濕了?
台灣的路況已經比越南更糟更亂了?
台製的品質已經比越南製的更爛了?

還是台灣換機油的觀念已經跟世界脫節了?

不過如果不知道油尺在哪裡的 , 或是取出油尺也不知道要看什麼小朋友的
請還是乖乖的每一千公里就掏錢造福商人吧
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------以下換我發文
機油在使用是國際大廠且認證不錯情況下...機車7~800您可以感受到油門反應的不同啊...
手感變粗糙了?..還是變沒力了?...但我猜測您應該是搞錯了....
影響一台機車的情況非常的多~~傳動~空氣~風向~~溫度~路況等等太多太多了~~
我朋友蠢到碗公離合器有問題~起步抖呀抖的都沒發現~卻也可以感受到800公里機油衰退..
我也不知道該說什麼....

網路那麼發達

一堆人就是相信

而不去直接問

英文不會古狗翻

以下是我去發問因為我妹婿買的油而國外沒有號數而提問

我挑幾段


Dear Sir,

Thank you for your interest in our products. Below are some answers to your questions.

Q1. Our product does not exist in this list because the product uses an alternative method for approval. We use a pre-approved additive package and formulation.

Q2. You are quite correct the two sets of specification cannot exist, this is the reason why ACEA A5/B5 is followed by 'meets engine test requirements'. ACEA A5/B5 requires the passing of identical engine tests to ACEA A3/B4, the difference is that an ACEA A3/B4 oil with high HTHS will not meet the fuel economy requirement of ACEA A5/B5. Please see document attached.

Q3. I don't understand the question. Our system recommends the use of Synthesis Xtra-Life 5W-30 in this vehicle.


Q4. At this moment we do not offer technical data sheet access to the general public.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.


Best wishes,

Martyn Waterhouse

Technical Manager

Rock Oil Company

90 Priestley Street, Warrington, Cheshire. WA5 1ST. England. United Kingdom.

Tel: +44 (0) 1925 636191

Fax: +44 (0) 1925 632499

Web: www.rockoil.com

Email: martyn@rockoil.co.uk


Dear Zhuping An liking,

Thank you for your e-mail and photos. There are a significant number of differences in the product you photographed and anything that has ever been produced by Rock Oil Company. The product you have is a fake and I cannot make any comment as to the oil inside the pack. If you send me samples of approx 200 ml, we can conduct laboratory tests to confirm what you have purchased.

As we have the global intellectual property rights on the brand – name and devices, We would like as much information as you can let me have so that we may pursue legal action against the fraudsters.

Please let me have your contact details for further communication.

Best wishes,

Charles Hewitt.

Managing Director.


Dear Zhuping An liking,

Rock does produce 5w/50 oils of the specification shown. Rock does / has not produced the product in your photos. I'd rather not divulge why or how I know that, as it may be material evidence in court.

regarding a sample: if you let me know the details, i will arrange (and pay) for the collection.

Best wishes,

Charles.

只到這至少我有去求證

現在我也只看數據最好能有實車照片

j251413 wrote:
有興趣去翻翻日本原廠...(恕刪)

我覺得..........
因為人家引擎是新款,我們家是沒進化過的.......所以建議用的油不一樣
我相信低號數的機由保護力一定夠
但僅限於我相信,畢竟我真的不是專家

當初會想用第號數的機油僅僅出自於低耗數比較不黏,感覺油耗應該會比較好
而我也選擇10000KM換一次機油,一開始是因為覺得車沒那麼好(colt plus),不用那個照顧

過了3年多,開61000公里,引擎也好好的
6W公里保養第一次換火星塞,技師還說,真的有開6W嗎??看起來像是3W公里左右而已

機由這議題我覺得就隨個人喜好吧
有人喜歡5000換,用高號數的機油又沒有妨礙到別人,實在是不用太當一回事
GIIPS111078 wrote:
我覺得..........(恕刪)


就算是汽車也不會落後到哪去
可能差一年(那買進口車怎麼說?)

機車的話不太可能有差
以鈴木機車來說小型速克達都是台灣代工賣回日本的
山葉的競戰好像也是
光陽貌似也有幫bmw代工引擎

以做油的廠來說台灣只有中油
不像日美歐有一堆廠相互競爭
台灣人用了本土神油難怪很快就要換油

2006book wrote:
台灣人用了本土神油難怪很快就要換油...(恕刪)


我用坐船過來的油也是5000就換
像樓上某位講的
我是用屁股感覺機油衰不衰
新油跟4-5千左右的油屁股真的感覺得出來
這裡有一篇國外文章,討論機油號數,黏度等。論點有科學依據,言之有物;結論是....請各位客倌慢慢欣賞。

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zddplus.com%2FTechBrief13%2520-%2520Oil%2520Viscosity.pdf
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