開過AWD,一切都回不去了……


bambochen wrote:
你是說我被連摩擦力...(恕刪)


豆腐加工業石膏的新聞在這裡啦!

http://www.setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=48308

我已經開始同情你了...你連石膏是豆腐材料之一都不知道...咬斷牙齒? 天啊!

bambochen wrote:
SH-AWD有沒有比其他AWD強,左右 0-100,100-0 扭力分配有沒有用
看看影片就知道...(恕刪)

能左右0-100,100-0 扭力分配是因為用了open differential
也就是一般平民車的差速器
這一點和高不高級沒關系

而且SH AWD和subaru的"下級"ATS AWD一樣是沒有中差的
在一些人眼中這叫不上awd
redcatgt500 wrote:
能左右0-100,100...(恕刪)


The open differential always applies the "same amount" of "torque" to both wheels.
還左右0-100, 100-0扭力分配是因為有open differential咧~~

ATS沒中差....
我在講電子SH-AWD沒中傳,差一個字差很多的

cchsux wrote:
那你要更小心豆腐,大部分原料是有害健康的工業石膏呢^^

豆腐營養沒你想的多,毒物倒是比豆漿多很多~"~ 所以豆漿我喝,豆腐您用就好...(恕刪)


不知道是誰寫豆腐"大部分"的原料是有害健康的工業石膏
既然你的豆腐裡大部分的原料是石膏,怎麼能不硬呢?

中文不是這樣寫的.......

如果是照新聞的意思,應該是要寫說:大部分的豆腐用了有害健康的工業石膏當原料.....

不要連中文都可以被打臉

bambochen wrote:
The open differential always applies the "same amount" of "torque" to both wheels.
還左右0-100, 100-0扭力分配是因為有open differential咧~~
ATS沒中差....
我在講電子SH-AWD沒中傳,差一個字差很多的...(恕刪)

就是用了OPEN differential才做到左右0-100, 100-0扭力
(固定一邊輪,扭力就會全去了別一邊的輪)
always applies the "same amount" of "torque"
這只會出現在LOCK differential

事實上SH-AWD是沒有CENTER differential(中差)
你知道自己在打什麼嗎?
redcatgt500 wrote:
就是用了OPEN differential才做到左右0-100, 100-0扭力
(固定一邊輪,扭力就會全去了別一邊的輪)
always applies the "same amount" of "torque"
這只會出現在LOCK differential
事實上SH-AWD是沒有CENTER differential(中差)
你知道自己在打什麼嗎?...(恕刪)


有自信是好事,不過講錯了還這麼有自信就不是好事了
請看影片解釋吧!我懶得打字了
Open & Lock Differential

再說SH-AWD的左右0~100,100~0扭力切換也不是只有單輪接地時可用
跟單純的Lock differential又不一樣

以下擷取自速霸陸網站:
Active torque split AWD
An AWD system developed exclusively for 4-speed automatic transmission, E-4AT (with manual mode) and Lineartronic models to maximise the reliable driving performance of AWD models under any driving conditions. The Lineartronic CVT (Continuous Variable Transmission) uses a chain instead of a belt—allowing a greater span of overall ratios for improved performance and efficiency as well as a faster response to throttle input. The active torque-split AWD system usually distributes torque 60:40 front and rear, however sensors constantly monitor the vehicle's condition in areas such as changes in grip of the front and rear tyres or vehicle speed. The electronically controlled MP-T (Multi Plate Transfer) adjusts torque distribution to the front and rear tyres in real-time to suit driving conditions, as well as the transmission and driver inputs. This further increases the stability of the AWD system to deliver a safe and agile driving experience.

MP-T不就是中差嗎?
怎麼會說ATS沒中差?





bambochen wrote:
Active torque split AWD
An AWD system developed exclusively for 4-speed automatic transmission, E-4AT (with manual mode) and Lineartronic models to maximise the reliable driving performance of AWD models under any driving conditions. The Lineartronic CVT (Continuous Variable Transmission) uses a chain instead of a belt—allowing a greater span of overall ratios for improved performance and efficiency as well as a faster response to throttle input. The active torque-split AWD system usually distributes torque 60:40 front and rear, however sensors constantly monitor the vehicle's condition in areas such as changes in grip of the front and rear tyres or vehicle speed. The electronically controlled MP-T (Multi Plate Transfer) adjusts torque distribution to the front and rear tyres in real-time to suit driving conditions, as well as the transmission and driver inputs. This further increases the stability of the AWD system to deliver a safe and agile driving experience.


哪裡有中差?(center diff.)

mp t是現今大多數awd車輛使用的系統,名稱各廠自己掰,性能就各有差異.

按照文字就能解釋,它真的不是傳統的中差.

只是subaru把mp t玩的比他廠好,所以叫做proactive auto.awd,
您先找資料,繼續talk...

每個人車上一般的差速器就是 open differential

shawd 後差當然不是 open diff

剛好相反.

shawd 後差是 "no diff" (hypoid gear 直結) 加上

左右各一個濕式 multi-plate clutch

multi-plate clutch 的 100/0, 0/100

和 locked diff 的 100/0, 0/100

是.........差很遠的(用途不同).

redcatgt500 wrote:
就是用了OPEN differential才做到左右0-100, 100-0扭力
(固定一邊輪,扭力就會全去了別一邊的輪)
always applies the "same amount" of "torque"
這只會出現在LOCK differential
事實上SH-AWD是沒有CENTER differential(中差)
你知道自己在打什麼嗎?
uenfun wrote:
哪裡有中差?(center...(恕刪)


ATS的MP-T雖然不能算Center Differential,但站在功能的角度來看,MP-T確實是拿來控制兩軸之間的滑差,跟Center Differential的用途是很相近的。

至於SH-AWD則是完全沒有中差,只有後軸的左右離合器


awd 前後軸之間有差速, 中軸就一定要有 something,

這個 something 不是 clutch, 就是 differential, 不然就是 clutch 加 differential

如果把 mp-t 視為中差的話.(subaru 的 mp-t 整合在變速箱裡)

那 shawd 也有中差, 只是整合在 rear diff 裡 (圖中的橘框AD)

紅框是做後軸 side to side 扭力分配的 clutch (左右各一)

圖中也可以看到 hypoid gear 直結 (中無 spider gears).


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