ChaioPi wrote:
Cat413 wrote:
應該是SE_VGA沒有支援Chinese Rom...:'(
昨晚上SE_VGA網站看,只有英文、法文、德文...ai

不是SE_VGA沒有支援Chinese Rom啦
而是Chinese Rom那時還沒有出來阿
現在中文機上市了
就再等一會兒吧


緊張 緊張
那是不是說中文機的4700目前不能用VGA啊?
是不是連看電影都還是跟其他機子一樣用QVGA?
可是目前買到4700的幸運兒都說螢幕超棒的
SE_VGA是用來幹麻的呀
教教我吧
畫質是VGA
但顯示尺寸仍然是QVGA的尺寸(240*320)
所以
雖然銀幕畫質很棒
但是顯示出來和一般傳統的圖像大小沒有不同

SE_VGA則是用來把設定變成VGA尺寸(480*640)
也就是說
圖像會變小,能顯示的項目變多(自己家中的銀幕設定就可了解)
目前不支援中文機
在顯示法表示上會有錯誤
漫步在火坑
哇 屌不起來了
那看電影不就要用放大鏡來看了
難道沒有其他的軟體可放大嗎
還是Kevin-K兄厲害
以往QVGA和VGA我都不太能解釋得很清楚
總是辭不達意
不過確實是如同Kevin-K兄所講的一樣
就好像螢幕是15吋
但您可以把解析度調成640x480或1024x768

所以說囉
您可以把iPAQ 4700的4吋螢幕當成是一台最高解析度可以達到640x480的LCD
但因為PDA比較小的關係
若是設成640x480解析度的話
文字看起來就會更小
所以廠商多半把應用軟體設定成320x240的解析度,而畫質仍是VGA
但您可透過類似像SE_VGA這種程式來調整解析度的大小
只是SE_VGA是國外的軟體
目前並不支援中文機
但您要使用也不是不可以
這時就要透過一些修改的手段來達成
如同底下的作法:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=61&t=47818#328452

Kevin-K wrote:
畫質是VGA
但顯示尺寸仍然是QVGA的尺寸(240*320)
所以
雖然銀幕畫質很棒
但是顯示出來和一般傳統的圖像大小沒有不同

SE_VGA則是用來把設定變成VGA尺寸(480*640)
也就是說
圖像會變小,能顯示的項目變多(自己家中的銀幕設定就可了解)
目前不支援中文機
在顯示法表示上會有錯誤


I am not sure this is accurate.

If you have a image with resolution (240 x 268), it will be displayed in the whole screen of QVGA (240x320, you got 26 pixels at top and bottom task bars). If you put in a VGA device (480x640), supposedly, it will only occupied 1/4 of the screen. However, you did not see this happened in hx4700, in other words you still see it occupied the whole screen and the resolution and clarity is not greater than QVGA. The reason was the WM2003SE OS has a trick. If OS detect your software is "VGA-aware", then OS just lleave the image alone. On the other hand, most of software were developed before VGA age, in order to let software run as it would in QVGA, OS automatically "double" the pixels for "width" and "hight" of image. It will automatically "expand" the image "4X". Under this cirumstance, your software will "looks" full function in VGA device.

Using SE_VGA, it disable the trick in OS, everything will just follow the way it supposedly to be. If you have 16 x16 image, it will be displayed as 16x16 (not 32x32 before you apply SE_VGA). The advantage is you fully take the extra resolution and clarity provided by VGA device, the down side, everything shrink into 1/4 of size.

Tweaks2K2, which can not be used in Chinese OS, adds a "VGA resource" into the individual program. In that way, OS thought this particular software "can" support VGA, therefore does not apply the trick to it. This can be done also by be done maunally (was posted before).

How the users to choose the way to take advantage of VGA device is a personal preference. For me, I can not see the samll image and text so I don't use SE_VGA at all. I rather to use the trick to deceive OS.

My personal beleive, all the software developers are currently try to make their software to support VGA and these issues will be gone in near future.

ccd79 wrote:
哇 屌不起來了
那看電影不就要用放大鏡來看了
難道沒有其他的軟體可放大嗎

不用擔心解析度問題啦...
看看小弟的4700測試報告就知道啦...

larrylo wrote:

I am not sure this is accurate.

If you have a image with resolution (240 x 268), it will be displayed in the whole screen of QVGA (240x320, you got 26 pixels at top and bottom task bars). If you put in a VGA device (480x640), supposedly, it will only occupied 1/4 of the screen. However, you did not see this happened in hx4700, in other words you still see it occupied the whole screen and the resolution and clarity is not greater than QVGA. The reason was the WM2003SE OS has a trick. If OS detect your software is "VGA-aware", then OS just lleave the image alone. On the other hand, most of software were developed before VGA age, in order to let software run as it would in QVGA, OS automatically "double" the pixels for "width" and "hight" of image. It will automatically "expand" the image "4X". Under this cirumstance, your software will "looks" full function in VGA device.

Using SE_VGA, it disable the trick in OS, everything will just follow the way it supposedly to be. If you have 16 x16 image, it will be displayed as 16x16 (not 32x32 before you apply SE_VGA). The advantage is you fully take the extra resolution and clarity provided by VGA device, the down side, everything shrink into 1/4 of size.

Tweaks2K2, which can not be used in Chinese OS, adds a "VGA resource" into the individual program. In that way, OS thought this particular software "can" support VGA, therefore does not apply the trick to it. This can be done also by be done maunally (was posted before).

How the users to choose the way to take advantage of VGA device is a personal preference. For me, I can not see the samll image and text so I don't use SE_VGA at all. I rather to use the trick to deceive OS.

My personal beleive, all the software developers are currently try to make their software to support VGA and these issues will be gone in near future.


Thx for your correctness.
Because SE_VGA isn't used in 4700(Chinese), so I don't study in this program.
I think, "the small image and text" is also a big problem for PDA users. So the software must support VGA with change the size of images and texts, or users
will not like to use it.
Excuse my poor English~
漫步在火坑
larrylo wrote:
Tweaks2K2, which can not be used in Chinese OS, adds a "VGA resource" into the individual program. In that way, OS thought this particular software "can" support VGA, therefore does not apply the trick to it. This can be done also by be done maunally (was posted before).

How the users to choose the way to take advantage of VGA device is a personal preference. For me, I can not see the samll image and text so I don't use SE_VGA at all. I rather to use the trick to deceive OS.

My personal beleive, all the software developers are currently try to make their software to support VGA and these issues will be gone in near future.

I personally recommend using ozVGA in combination with ForceHires in a Chinese OS device instead of Tweaks2k2 with SE_VGA, if someone else is still interested in this topic.

After being a guinea pig for almost 2 months, I only came to the conclussion that the best way is to WAIT, until the programs themselves have been upgraded to support VGA devices!
我也加入4700一族了...
使用兩天的心得:檔案放在iPAQ Store裡頭執行起來真是異常的慢啊...
大家也會這樣嗎?
比我放在SD卡裡頭還慢耶,感覺很不正常...
いつも次のPDAは理想的なものだと思うんね!
leonard wrote:
我也加入4700一族了...
使用兩天的心得:檔案放在iPAQ Store裡頭執行起來真是異常的慢啊...
大家也會這樣嗎?
比我放在SD卡裡頭還慢耶,感覺很不正常...

我很想回覆您這個問題
可是我不曉得您所說的慢是指「相對性的慢」還是指「絕對性的慢」
也許是您曾經用過比較快的機種所以感覺起來才會覺得iPAQ 4700慢吧
因為就算iPAQ 4700不見得用起來達到飛快的境地
但也不會有異常慢的情形
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