現今最強PC和PS3相比~遊戲畫質哪個優

Antress wrote:
PS3 大部分遊戲都還達不到 720P 的條件。

kazuto wrote:
這結論你是從哪聽來的?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
Playstation 3

50 Cent = 1280x720 (blur filter)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (QAA)
Aliens Vs Predator = 1120x630 (custom AA)
Alone in the Dark = 1120x630 (no AA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Assassin's Creed 2 = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x720 (QAA) -> 1080 mode.
Avatar = 1280x692 (QAA, black borders)
Backbreaker = 1152x640 (2xAA + blur filter)
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bayonetta = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 680p (no AA, blur filter pre-patch)
Bioshock 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Blacksite: Area 51 = 1280x720 (no AA)
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger = 1280x720 (QAA background, no AA characters )
Blur = 1280x720 (2xAA + half-pixel, bilinear-filtered edge blur)
Borderlands = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bourne Conspiracy, The (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Brutal Legend = 1152x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Black Ops = 960x544 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood = 1152x648 (4x2 custom edge AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Castlevania: Lord of Shadow = 1280x720 (no AA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1024x720 (QAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dante's Inferno = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Darksiders = 1152x648 (no AA)
Darkness, The (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Dead Rising 2 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dead to Rights: Retribution = 1072x603 (2xAA) ?
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Demon's Souls = 1280x720 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Dirt = 1280x720 (QAA)
Dirt 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Dragon Age: Origins = 1280x720 (AA ?)
Dragonball: Raging Blast 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dynasty Warriors 6 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
End of Eternity/Resonance of Fate = 1088x720 (2xAA)
End War = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Enslaved = 1280x720 (no AA)
F.E.A.R. = 1280x720 (blur filter)?
F.E.A.R. 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
F1 2010 = 1280x720 (QAA)
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x1080
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer = 1280x720 (no AA)
Far Cry 2 = 1274x692 (QAA, black borders)
Fifa 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Fifa 2010 = 1280x720 (QAA) on 720p window)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Fight Night Round 4 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Final Fantasy XIII = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Fracture = 1152x648 (no AA)
Ghostbusters = 960x540 (QAA, pre-patch), 1024x576 (2xAA, post-patch)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
G.I. Joe: The Rise of the Cobra = 1280x720 (QAA)
Godfather II = 1200x720 (blur filter)
God of War III = 1280x720 (MLAA)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (QAA)
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue = 1080p mode is 1280x1080 (2xAA) in-game while the garage/pit/showrooms are 1920x1080 with no AA. 720p mode is 1280x720 (4xAA)
Gran Turismo 5 =
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero 5 = 1024x576 (no AA)
HAWX = 1280x720 (no AA, horizontal blur)
HAWX2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, full screen blur filter)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Heavy Rain = 1280x720 (2xAA)
IL2 Sturmovik = 1280x720 (QAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Killzone 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (no AA, slight blur filter)
LEGO: Harry Potter 1-4 = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 640p (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Lost Planet 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Mafia 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
MAG = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance = 1280x720 & 1920x1080 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 960x720 (QAA)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (no AA)
MK vs DC = 1040x624 (QAA)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) - The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders
MLB09: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) or 1920x1080 (no AA)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV: Untamed = 1024x576 (no AA)
MX vs ATV: Reflex = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit = 1280x720 (2xAA on cars, no AA on environment)
Need For Speed: Pro Street = 1280x720 (QAA)
Need For Speed: Shift = 1280x720 (QAA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (QAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (no AA, has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma 2 = 1280x718 (dynamic 2xMSAA, black borders)
Operation Flashpoint 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Orange Box, The = 1280x720 (QAA or full screen blur...)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Overlord II = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA), 960x720 en mode 720p
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur? or quincunx)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, no AA cut-scenes)
Prototype = 1120x640 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 960x704 (2xAA, AA samples used to reconstruct 720p)
Ratchet & Clank: A Crank in Time = 960x704 (2xAA, AA samples used to reconstruct 720p)
Red Dead Redemption = 1152x640 (QAA)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (no AA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-QAA)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Resistance 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (no AA)
Rock Band = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Rock Band 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Rock Band: The Beatles = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Rock Band: Green Day = 1280x720 (2xAA, post-fx or lighting usually resulting in "no AA")
Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Saboteur = 1280x720 (edge detect)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1280x720 when sub-HD output selected, 1920x1080 for any HD output (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (QAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (no AA)
SEGA: All Stars Racing = 1280x720 (2xAA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha blend)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1024x576 (no AA)
Simpsons, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Singularity = 1280x720 (no AA)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Skate 3 = possibly 1152x640 (2xAA, super blur filter makes it difficult to determine exact res)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (blur filter)
Soul Calibur IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1280x576 in 1080p mode
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (no AA)
Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions = 1120x630 (no AA)
Split-Second = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope = 1024x720 (2xAA, in field), ~930x512 (2xAA, in battle)
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1120x630 (in up-close character view)
Super Stars V8: Next Challenge = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Super Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA)
Supercar Challenge = 960x1080 (no AA)
Tekken 6 = 1024x576 (2xMSAA w/o motion blur, no AA w/motion blur)
Terminator: Salvation = 1152x648 (blur filter)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '11 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1280x720 (QAA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers = 960x1080 (no AA)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen = 1120x720 (blur filter)
Transformers: War for Cybertron = 1024x600 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
UFC 2009: Undisputed = 1280x720 (no AA in-game, 4xAA cutscenes)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Uncharted 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Vanquish = 1024x720 (2xAA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
Virtua Tennis 2009 = 1280x720 (QAA)
WWE 08 = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA) - les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation StefanS: "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artifact it seems that it is the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
WALL E = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wolfenstein = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (no AA)
Antress wrote:
PS3 大部分遊戲都還達不到 720P 的條件。

SO. 這算大部分都沒有720P嗎?
我是替PS3平反
720P占大多數
不到720P的也有
1080P少數
樓主應該加一個"硬件+os價格 = PS3 價格"的最強PC為前題...

不然不大公平吧?

你要一個羽量級的去打一個重量級的...
嘩! 就算羽量級的肯去打, 你也知道不好看吧!
Antress wrote:
雖然 PS2 模擬器...(恕刪)


你說的是沒錯.....
以現今高時脈雙核心以上的PC去硬幹模擬單CPU的Wii或許還OK~
但是目前也都只有單CPU的遊戲機...

多CPU的遊戲機如 SEGA的 Saturn....
只是用了兩顆 Hitachi SH-2 RISC 32BIT 28.6MHz CPU...甚至比 PS 的 33MHz 還低~
為什麼 PS 模擬器老早就能完美模擬了,同時期的 Saturn 卻直到最近....
才有比較像樣模擬器出現....

而若是要模擬如 PS3 CELL多協同處理器架構 或是 360 對稱3-Core 架構....
早期的雙CPU的Satrun門檻都這麼高了~現今更複雜的360/PS3?

模擬器不是說只要有人願意跳出來寫就能如願以償~硬體架構才是門檻~寫不寫得出來還是問題~

現今的PC是很強大沒錯....

以現今一台主流 4-Core 3GHz 的PC的來說...
若執行PC-GAME會是:
強大的PC硬體>掛上Win OS>再掛上PC遊戲~隨便跑個1080P 8XAA也很順暢沒錯

若執行PC3/360模擬器會是:
強大的PC硬體>掛上Win OS>再掛上模擬器>載入遊戲ISO~跑個720P~
乍看之下也沒什麼~也應順暢沒錯!


但是試想事實是...
若強大的PC硬體>掛上Win OS>再掛上用軟體去模擬的PS3/360硬體>在掛上PS3/360的OS>還要在掛上遊戲ISO....

要讓PS3/360的遊戲軟體在模擬出來的硬體運算出美麗的3D遊戲畫面....
可不像一般PC Base的Game可以直接透過OS、API去直接應用強大的顯示卡GPU...
來做多邊形運算材質填充~CPU就做一般的遊戲運算就好~

360與PS3一樣是屬多核心主時脈3.2GHz的硬體平台....
而PC用軟體去模擬出來的360/PS3平台,就當他是已經能完美模擬好了....
那強大 PC 的 4-Core 3GHz 的 CPU 去模擬360與PS3一樣是屬多核心主時脈3.2GHz CPU~
究竟可以模擬出真實360 CPU/PS3 CELL幾成的硬體效能??
更不用說還要負責GPU的模擬與南北橋的架構模擬~

別天真的想說讓模擬器去掛上PS3/360的遊戲去跑~PC還會有多麼輕鬆~

當前PS3/360的遊戲畫面雖然不及PC隨便都1080P那般強大美麗~
那是因為PS3/360的GPU晶片架構要跑1080P根本不夠力~只能將就跑個720P~
但是並不代表PS3/360的CPU就一樣都是廢材~

現階段PC多核心CPU固然是很強大沒錯~但是對上要模擬一樣是多核心架構的遊戲機硬體~是完全占不到什麼優勢....

別把PC的硬體給神話了~
不計成本當然是PC
誰叫開題者想要把這兩個不同市場的東西推出來比賽的
當然也要考慮到遊戲公司開發各平台時候所做的遊戲優化的效果
在PC之下開發商可以做更加細膩的設定
我喜歡玩PS3的單機遊戲~
跟用PC玩WOW等等的線上遊戲~
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