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SAAB 93 Vector Combi 有它的好
VOLVO V50 也有它的好
而是不是每個人一樣覺得好
或者適合每個人
就不一定了
樓主得自己去深入感受這二者的差異性
大家所提的建議與思考點都是寶貴的
而哪一部份重要或者哪一部份不重要
這要樓主自己去體會與思考的
畢竟最後要開車的人是你自己
我自己是開VOLVO S40T5的
老爸開VOLVO XC70
表哥開SAAB 93 AERO
彼此對於對方的車
都一樣讚譽與欣賞
SAAB與VOLVO愛好者
同屬瑞典車系
可別因為這篇文章而傷了和氣
畢竟每人的立場與觀點不一
對於事物的看法也絕不會一樣的
大家選擇自己所愛的
也愛自己所選擇的
然後也站在欣賞彼此的角度去瞭解對方
這樣不是很好嗎？
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cchang1234 wrote:
Saab又何嘗不是？
Saab也是有在看不到的地方努力阿！
你這樣比似乎不太恰當吧？
Saab的鄉親們阿！
您們說是不是阿？
小弟是用第三者的眼光來分析這兩臺車的差異﹐ 雖然因為其他主客觀因素最後小弟兩臺車都沒有買但是也可以分享給大家參考。 不需要叫SAAB鄉親來圍攻小弟。
分享小弟當最後選擇 Subaru Outback 3.0R的比較表﹕
9-3 SC Vector vs. V50 T5 AWD vs. Subaru Outback 3.0R
價格﹕ Subaru & Volvo (整體 C/P 值差不多)
外形﹕ 3部車平手 (旅行車都很帥)
品牌﹕ SAAB 跟 VOLVO (Subaru 畢竟不是歐洲品牌)
性能﹕ Volvo 230hp Turbo & Subaru 245hp + Si-Drive (各有千秋)
操控﹕ Volvo & Subaru (Volvo 有歐洲風格, Subaru 有世界出名的 Symmetric AWD 比 VOLVO 的非全時AWD (類似 HONDA CRV的 Real-Time AWD 系統) 先進﹐基本上跟 Audi Quattro 系統齊名)
安全﹕ Volvo...那個內建兒童座椅真的是有錢都買不到的好東西。 Subaru 有那個油壓剪都剪不斷的車籠結構﹐ 不過我還是很羨慕VOLVO的內建兒童座椅 (奇怪﹐我又沒有小孩.......)
配備﹕ Volvo & Subaru (各有千秋)
質感﹕ Volvo 小勝 Subaru
實用﹕ Subaru (內部空間比 Volvo & Saab 大多了﹐接近 Passat Variant)
保養﹕ Subaru (比國產車貴些﹐ 比歐洲車便宜的多)
稅金﹕ SAAB (一個月少負擔 $400 元)
折舊﹕ 不清楚
改裝﹕ Volvo 大排氣量+原廠低增壓預留了不少改裝空間﹐而且AWD對應 300馬力比FF輕鬆多了。 Subaru 3.0R 引擎方面改裝品比較少﹐不過有 Supercharger Kit 可以到達300馬力以上就是了。
最重要的﹕ Subaru Outback 3.0R 贏了我家女王的眼光
光憑這點就打扒了任何對手。女王跟皇帝 (他們的司機拍攝)
空間大也方便 (後座還可以坐一個人)
42寸+32寸電視各一臺 No Problem
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賓士的零件價格
法拉利的待料時間
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swiftboy wrote:
抱歉我還在求證到底s...(恕刪)
美國的 Automobile 雜誌在試開 TURBO X 時候提到這部車的地盤已經有將近15年的歷史了....
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/editors_notebook/0807_2008_saab_turbo_x_sportcombi/index.html
When you scan the specifications on the Saab Turbo X SportCombi (despite the 9-3 badge on the back, Saab insists you call it just the Turbo X), you can't help but get excited. It's an all-wheel-drive, turbocharged station wagon with a manual transmission. You get 280 hp and nearly 300 lb-ft of torque. Plus, the Turbo X features Saab's new electronically controlled, limited-slip rear differential. On the outside, the eighteen-inch wheels are funky cool and the black paint adds to the good-looking profile. Inside, the front seats are typical Saab comfortable and the turbo boost gauge is a neat retro touch. This is all good stuff indeed.
賬面上看來 TURBO X 實在讓人興奮﹐ AWD﹐ TURBO引擎﹐手排變速﹐ 280馬力﹐外表酷眩。等等。
The problem is, the basic 9-3 is getting old and you really feel that behind the wheel of the Turbo X. Our test car was cursed with squeaks and rattles, and as is often the case with Saabs, the six-speed manual shifter was imprecise. The aging 9-3 chassis is not helped by the stiffer springs and dampers fitted to the Turbo X. The low-speed ride never really settles down and the steering always has a rubbery feel to it. The sportier exhaust sounds good when driving through a parking garage with the windows open but usually it is just too boomy inside the cabin. Sure, the traction of Saab's all-wheel-drive system is impressive but the overall driving experience of the Turbo X does not live up to the impressive specifications list, especially for close to $45,000.
問題是9-3的地盤已經老舊而且感覺的出來。 我們開的這臺 TURBO X 內裝充斥各種異音。 6速手排感覺不佳﹐ 硬朗的懸吊系統搭配老舊的地盤造成低速車身彈跳問題。 方向盤感覺也不順。 排氣管聲音好聽但是車內共鳴問題嚴重。 雖然新的 AWD 系統讓人印象深刻但是整體而言TURBO X的表現不如規格上面的數字。
Poor Saab, starved of product development resources, has to make do with a car with roots that stretch back nearly fifteen years. Yes, the Swedes have massaged this platform to within an inch of its life, but at its core, the Turbo X SportCombi feels like a car from the mid-'90s. The all-wheel-drive system is great, because it at least eradicates the torque steer that has plagued Saabs for years. But other than that, the Turbo X's dynamics are disappointing. The shifter, the steering, and the suspension damping all feel rubbery. Ride quality is only okay, and the powertrain does not make enticing sounds. On the plus side, the interior is well executed, if dated, and the wagon body is a welcome return to the hatchback versatility of Saabs of yore.
可憐的SAAB因為缺乏開發資源只好繼續的改良一個已經接近15年的歷史的車款。 雖然SAAB已經盡最大努力但是 TURBO X 開起來感覺就像是一臺90年代中期的產品。 AWD 系統表現非常棒並且解決了SAAB長期以來無法克服的扭力轉向問題﹐但是其他方面看來 TURBO X 的動態表現只能用失望來形容。 變速箱﹐方向盤感覺﹐懸吊系統表現都不順。 行路性還OK而後動力系統發出的聲音也沒有什麼特別。 內裝雖然有點老氣但是感覺其實還不錯。 旅行車的設定也很有味道。
下面的內容大同小異﹐ 我就不翻譯了。
I agree with Marc: on paper, this is a great car ... a Swedish rally car in the vein of the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and the Subaru Impreza WRX. But from behind the wheel, the Turbo X is too soggy to provide the satisfaction that's required of an all-wheel-drive, stick-shift, slick-looking wagon with a high-strung turbo - especially for more than $40K.
The manual gearbox is imprecise and rubbery and the Turbo X is geared strangely, too: Second gear feels as tall as third in most cars, so you've got to stay in first longer than usual.
In black, the Turbo X looks tough yet nicely tailored, although I'm personally not a big fan of the gray, three-spoke wheels.
I hate to be yet one more voice in the chorus of Turbo X negativity, but I can't remember the last time I was this disappointed in a car. I didn't grow up around two-stroke Saabs, or even early-'80s Saabs, but I very much wanted the Turbo X to be something that it isn't. Maybe it had something to do with a ride I got - my first! - in an '89 900 four-door a few weeks ago, or maybe I simply believed a little too much of the marketing hype. But while I thought we were finally getting a car that at least resembled the Saabs of old, I was instead presented with a soft, rubbery, warmed-over 9-3 with an indifferent (in the dry, at least) all-wheel-drive system and what must be the world's most frustrating shifter.
At least, as Rusty pointed out, it looks cool. The black paint and trim and the retro-Italian wheels - they look straight out of the 1973 Milan auto salon - all breathe new life into an aging and overly familiar shape. And there isn't a hint of torque steer to be found. At this point, however, I just find myself hoping that Saab rediscovers itself very, very soon.
Sam Smith, Associate Editor
素八滷
福斯的車價
水貨車的保固
賓士的零件價格
法拉利的待料時間
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乾脆我也來寫一寫
價格﹕ 必須實地訪價為準，Volvo前陣子大促銷，理論上可以談到較好的價格。
外形﹕ Saab比較好看又有型。Volvo比較老實刻板。外型難免比較主觀。
品牌﹕ 都是瑞典車。無分軒輊。
性能﹕ 實地跑才會準，誰都很難絕對勝出。
操控﹕ Volvo靠AWD，Saab靠很多電子控制系統。
安全﹕ 被動安全來講是Saab(撞擊測試成績)；主動安全來講是Volvo(AWD)。
配備﹕ 需要詳細比較。應該以車主自己的需求為準。
質感﹕ Volvo追求豪華， Saab追求樸實。看車主喜歡什麼感覺。
實用﹕ 要比行李箱空間還是什麼？
保養﹕ Saab。
稅金﹕ Saab。
折舊﹕ 歐洲車都不好。
改裝﹕ 兩台都可以改很大。
個人積分：468分
文章編號：7564206
