The below are some modified Miatas...

Again, the bigger tires the faster!!!

Auto Exec Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs, tires: 195/195, Time:????, Score: 292
Front 2.5K : (2.5 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 1.715
Rear 1.3K : (1.3 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 2.230

TEIN Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs, tires: 205/205, Time: 27"910, Score: 290
Front 7K : (7 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 4.802
Rear 5K : (5 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 8.577

LEG Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs, tires: 215/215, Time: 26"972, Score: 296
Front 6K : (6 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 4.116
Rear 4K : (4 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 6.862

DECK Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs, tires: 215/215, Time:26"915, Score: 289
Front 7K : (7 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 4.802
Rear 4K : (4 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 6.862

Again, for Japanese dampers, 6/4K could be the most stiff springs they could handle... Above that, even Auto Exec which is as soft as OEM feels better...

PS: These modified Miata were tuned by a bunch of professional engineers and racing drivers. So, most of users should even lower the spring rates. However, if European dampers are adopted, those high spring rates should become acceptable in the cars even though the setting are a little less than PERFECT, I believe!!!

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The below is tuned Type R, Yaris and Miata which got the best scores in GunSai...

Coincidentally, all three suspensions are very similar stiff 4/7...

So, these spring rates should be the sweet spot for those Japanese dampers!!!

(Of course, you still need some helps from racing professionals. Without those helps, you better lower down the spring rates somewhat like my GSF if you also need to drive your car on back roads!!!)

SPOON Civic Type R (FK8) : 3047lbs
Front 8K : 8 / (3047 * 62%) * 1000 = 4.235
Rear 8K : 8 / (3047 * 38%) * 1000 = 6.909

CUSCO GR Yaris (HP: 272, Tires: 235/235, Weight: 2820 lbs)
Front 7K : 7 / (2820 * 59%) * 1000 = 4.207
Rear 8K : 8 / (2820 * 41%) * 1000 = 6.919

LEG Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs, tires: 215/215, Time: 26"972, Score: 296
Front 6K : (6 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 4.116
Rear 4K : (4 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 6.862

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MCR GT-R is a little stiffer 5.6/9. (So, someone must have done a very good tuning job on it)

MCR GT-R (HP: 600, Tires: 255/285, Weight: 3762 lbs)
Front 14K : (14 * 0.8) / (3762 * 53%) * 1000 = 5.617
Rear 8K : (8 * 2) / (3762 * 47%) * 1000 = 9.049

PS: Again, if your dampers are European dampers, you can also increase spring rates like my GSF!!! So 4/7 is only a good starting point... (My Ohlins GSF is 6/10 instead of 4/7 now)
If with some professional helps, the spring rates of my Ohlins dampers can definitely go up even higher than Mine's GT-R 8/15 or Assist M3 9/16 as Ohlins are better!!! (In my opinion, even better than KW or Bilstein especially on back roads!!!)
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You may ask why Japanese cannot make good dampers like European...

I guess... Maybe their roads are too smooth!!!

Another thing is... In my opinion, damper designs could be more like ART instead of pure engineering... (Again... NO ONE is perfect!!! )
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The stock suspension for GSF is almost as stiff as some best modified cars in GunSai and also stiffer than standard M4.

GSF is actually about as stiff as M4 Competition!!! (GSF's front is stiffer but M4 Competition's rear is stiffer)

(That's why when I rode in my boss's brand new E400 in 2018, the ride felt like a boat!!! )

GSF :4035 lbs
Front 7.5K : (7.5 * 0.80) / (4035 * 53%) * 1000 = 2.806
Rear 12.4K : 12.4 / (4035 * 47%) * 1000 = 6.538

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M4 F82 (Weight: 3530 lbs)
Front 3K : 3 / (3530 * 52%) * 1000 = 1.634
Rear 10.5K : 10.5 / (3530 * 48%) * 1000 = 6.197

M4 Competition F82 (Weight: 3565 lbs)
Front 3.3K : 3.3 / (3565 * 52%) * 1000 = 1.780
Rear 12.14K : 12.14 / (3565 * 48%) * 1000 = 7.094

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SPOON Civic Type R (FK8) : 3047lbs
Front 8K : 8 / (3047 * 62%) * 1000 = 4.235
Rear 8K : 8 / (3047 * 38%) * 1000 = 6.909

CUSCO GR Yaris (HP: 272, Tires: 235/235, Weight: 2820 lbs)
Front 7K : 7 / (2820 * 59%) * 1000 = 4.207
Rear 8K : 8 / (2820 * 41%) * 1000 = 6.919

LEG Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs, tires: 215/215, Time: 26"972, Score: 296
Front 6K : (6 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 4.116
Rear 4K : (4 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 6.862
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My current GSF and Ohlins M4 are actually about the same stiff... (GSF's front is stiffer but M4's rear is stiffer)

Of course, Assist M4 from GunSai is a bit stiffer...

FIGS Ohlins GSF :4035 lbs
Front 16K : (16 * 0.80) / (4035 * 53%) * 1000 = 5.985
Rear 19K : 19 / (4035 * 47%) * 1000 = 10.019

Ohlins M4 (Weight: 3530 lbs)
Front 9K : 9 / (3530 * 52%) * 1000 = 4.903
Rear 19K : 19 / (3530 * 48%) * 1000 = 11.213

Assist M4 (Tires: 295/295, Weight: 3467 lbs)
Front 16K : 16 / (3467 * 52%) * 1000 = 8.875
Rear 26K : 26 / (3467 * 48%) * 1000 = 15.623
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The below is Ohlins for Q50 and GT-R... (Q50 is softer than G37 but with Ohlins... Q50 will be as stiff as MCR GT-R and almost as stiff as Ohlins GT-R)

Ohlins GT-R is also about as stiff as FIGS Ohlins GSF and Ohlins M4... (GT-R's front is stiffer but GT-R's rear is softer)

Ohlins Q50 (Weight: 3730 lbs)
Front 14K : (14 * 0.8) / (3730 * 53%) * 1000 = 5.665
Rear 8K : (8 * 2) / (3730 * 47%) * 1000 = 9.127

Ohlins GT-R (Weight: 3830 lbs)
Front 16K : (16 * 0.8) / (3830 * 53%) * 1000 = 6.308
Rear 9K : (9 * 2) / (3830 * 47%) * 1000 = 9.999

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The below GT-R from GunSai...

Interestingly, both Ohlins Q50 and MCR GT-R are exactly the same stiff, no matter front or rear!!!

MCR GT-R (HP: 600, Tires: 255/285, Weight: 3762 lbs)
Front 14K : (14 * 0.8) / (3762 * 53%) * 1000 = 5.617
Rear 8K : (8 * 2) / (3762 * 47%) * 1000 = 9.049

Mine's GT-R (HP: 750, Tires: 255/285, Weight: 3608 lbs)
Front 19.65K : (19.65 * 0.8) / (3608 * 53%) * 1000 = 8.221
Rear 12.50K : (12.50 * 2) / (3608 * 47%) * 1000 = 14.743
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The below is Ohlins for Miata(ND)...

--Street Version--
Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs
Front 7K : (7 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 4.802
Rear 4K : (4 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 6.862

--Track Version--
Miata(ND) : 2332 lbs
Front 10K : (10 * 0.80) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 6.860
Rear 6K : (6 * 2) / (2332 * 50%) * 1000 = 10.293

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The below is Ohlins for GSF... My current GSF is almost as stiff as Miata's Ohlins track version!!!

Maybe lighter cars should run a little softer than heavier cars...
Maybe shorter cars should run a little softer than longer cars... (I think this is more likely as the below formulas already count weight but no length like wheelbase!!!)

--Ohlins OEM--
GSF :4035 lbs
Front 16K : (16 * 0.80) / (4035 * 53%) * 1000 = 5.985
Rear 13K : 13 / (4035 * 47%) * 1000 = 6.855

--FIGS Street Version--
GSF :4035 lbs
Front 16K : (16 * 0.80) / (4035 * 53%) * 1000 = 5.985
Rear 19K : 19 / (4035 * 47%) * 1000 = 10.019

--FIGS Track Version--
GSF :4035 lbs
Front 18K : (18 * 0.80) / (4035 * 53%) * 1000 = 6.733
Rear 25K : 25 / (4035 * 47%) * 1000 = 13.182
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The below is for Civic Type R (FK8)

The OEM springs from Type R are a little soft!!! (I just got these numbers from a Type R forum)

PS: Maybe this car is just like Miata... Many people like it but I don't like it...

Weight: 3121 lbs

-- OEM --
Front 4.7K : 4.7 / (3121 * 62%) * 1000 = 2.429
Rear 4.2K : (4.2 * 1.2) / (3121 * 38%) * 1000 = 4.249

-- Ohlins --
Front 6K : 6 / (3121 * 62%) * 1000 = 3.101
Rear 10K : (10 * 1.2) / (3121 * 38%) * 1000 = 10.112

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Stock Civic Type R is even softer than my son's G35S(stock) and my daughter's M35X(stock)!!!

G37(V36) (Weight: 3613 lbs)
Front 7.6K : (7.6 * 0.8) / (3613 * 53%) * 1000 = 3.175
Rear 7.2K : 7.2 / (3613 * 47%) * 1000 = 4.240

M35 (Weight: 3958 lbs)
Front 6.4K : (6.4 * 0.8) / (3958 * 53%) * 1000 = 2.441
Rear 8.7K : 8.7 / (3958 * 47%) * 1000 = 4.677
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The below is the information for some Hondas...

Civic SI (FC1/FC3, OEM, 2906 lbs)
Front 2.5K : 2.5 / (2906 * 61%) * 1000 = 1.410
Rear 3.7K : (3.7 * 1.2) / (2906 * 39%) * 1000 = 3.912

Accord V6 (CR3, OEM, 3554 lbs)
Front 3.3K : (3.3 * 0.8) / (3554 * 62%) * 1000 = 1.198
Rear 3.2K : (3.2 * 2) / (3554 * 38%) * 1000 = 4.739

Accord Hybrid (CR6, OEM, 3595 lbs)
Front 3.3K : (3.3 * 0.8) / (3595 * 60%) * 1000 = 1.224
Rear 4.1K : (4.1 * 2) / (3595 * 40%) * 1000 = 5.702
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GR Yaris (Weight: 2820 lbs)

Again... OEM suspension looks a bit soft for my taste... (So, again, maybe like Miata... Many people like it but I don't like it...)

--OEM--
Front 3.4K : 3.4 / (2820 * 59%) * 1000 = 2.044
Rear 3.6K : 3.6 / (2820 * 41%) * 1000 = 3.114

--Ohlins--
Front 8K : 8 / (2820 * 59%) * 1000 = 4.808
Rear 8K : 8 / (2820 * 41%) * 1000 = 5.502
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