【完美色彩‧永不妥協】SONY 46X4500 艷麗登場!! 11/01 同場加映【HI-HD初測】


akita690 wrote:
看到標題再看到這則新...(恕刪)


這麼多優良技術人員流出 國內的家電大廠還不快重金禮聘...

另外可否請zhaokylin大
實際操作一下X4500的網路功能是能到什麼程度?
(是可以上網 還是只是跟家中區網作照片檔案分享...)
akita690 wrote:
看到標題再看到這則新...(恕刪)

看了akita690 兄的文章, 長了知識
如果sony 沒了DRC那真的會讓SONY走向危機
TO windsky2008大:

是的!! 小弟目前任職於家電相關行業

所以有比較多的機會接觸到各項新產品~

也希望能夠透過文章的發表,跟大家教學相長!!
Mobile01系統服務員: 你也知道寫文章很不容易,麻煩您寫一些好文章,不要寫一些有的沒的,這邊是01,不是什麼亂七八糟的網站 ...
zhaokylin wrote:
TO windsky...(恕刪)


可以提供些第四台畫面~參考一下嗎^^
karai wrote:
實際操作一下X4500的網路功能是能到什麼程度?(恕刪)

TO karai大:

  關於這一點,無奈距離太長,需裁一條15米長的網路線....

小弟會盡快補上相關的測試報告!!
Mobile01系統服務員: 你也知道寫文章很不容易,麻煩您寫一些好文章,不要寫一些有的沒的,這邊是01,不是什麼亂七八糟的網站 ...
樹枝鳥Y巴 wrote:
可以提供些第四台畫面...(恕刪)


TO 樹枝鳥Y巴 大:

  因小弟服務的場所,並沒有申請 第四台訊號 ,僅有BS/HI-HD/MOD/BD

所以關於這方面的測試,請恕小弟幫不上忙,不過我相信SONY的實力!!

之前有打算要接,不過業者表示 - 每月收取"陳列的台數X500" 這樣的天價!!  
Mobile01系統服務員: 你也知道寫文章很不容易,麻煩您寫一些好文章,不要寫一些有的沒的,這邊是01,不是什麼亂七八糟的網站 ...
因為今天已經在店家有看老闆測過試過了
幫大家解答一下X4500系列網路插孔的小疑惑

網路插孔就是搭配DLNA功能用的
不過連接網路線設定後....僅能瀏覽照片和音樂喔
XMB選單上並無影片瀏覽的對塵功能

算是半殘的DLNA...




日規格XR1系列不知有沒有完整的影片瀏覽功能
大家好,歡迎到小弟的部落格來座座 http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/computer-diy
這是 AVScience Forum 矯正之後的兩台差別

XBR8/X4500 Post-Calibration
DeltaE
Red: 0.002
Green: 0.001
Blue: = 0.14
Yellow: 0.09
Cyan: 0.07
Magenta: 0.011

Samsung A950 Post-Calibration
DeltaE
Red: 0.004
Green: 0.003
Blue: = 0.004
Yellow: 0.002
Cyan: 0.003
Magenta: 0.000

那位仁兄有提到XBR8出廠值的一出廠結果就很精準了相對A950來說。
不過,兩台同時經過矯正後,A950達到的精準值更好。DeltaE 越低越好,相對來說A950穩了許多。
那位仁兄也說兩台都很讚。 XBR8給他好印象較好因為矯正時間比較短因為出廠值精準度已經很高了不管是RGB Levels + Gamma + Color Accuracy CIE Graph。 給SONY拍拍手!

精準度很重要的~ 不是什麼有人說的比喻成藝術攝影風格之類的因為那些是要靠真的攝影藝術家去拍攝後放來電視看的OK?!

給看不清楚的人: "兩台精準度已經高到不能在高了,兩台都沒啥好嫌的呦!" "討論"是"討論" 好嗎!?
"大"韓民國(半島)
KakimotoRift wrote:
這是 AVScience Forum 矯正之後的兩台差別


與其貼這些,不如把調好的數值病顯示同畫面兩台並排一起拍照吧

我之前就照著他們PO"自認為"校正後的數值去用

只有一個感想: 天啊,這是什麼鬼

所以與其看別人說,不如自己親自試試,兩個並排拍張照直接對比比較實在,轉帖沒什麼用

之前對岸某論壇就有比過NEC的專業螢幕和52X300A,裡面有豐富的圖片並兩台並排顯示來比較

期待你XBR8和A950兩台並排的直接比較介紹文
windsky2008 wrote:
與其貼這些,不如把調...(恕刪)


我發覺你很喜歡"針對"我的文做評論。

我的言論還要你來訂法規嗎?

I will obey the Mobile01 Policy but I will not acknowledge your own set of rules!!!

我每個字都寫一清二楚。每句都與相關資訊符合,我在說的不就是在說"矯正值方面"的嗎?

還有啊Calibration不是[拷貝/貼上]別人的矯正值好嗎?

當你拷貝/貼上別人設定值前是否確定他有矯正器呢還是靠眼睛呢? 靠眼睛調整的那不是矯正....那是"調整".

當你套用別人的設定值你卻發現這是啥鬼時,是否確定韌體版本與工程模式參數都一樣呢? 它的矯正器是哪個呢? 謎音:"千萬不要使用某牌的矯正器"
在他的機上沒發現問題而在你的機有問題"跟鬼一樣"那就代表兩台工程模式理的參數沒有一樣 + 韌體版本不同。

更何況只有當你本人自己下去矯正時才會精準好嗎,套用別人的永遠都不會精準的OK? 因為那是在他的機台上進行的矯正,不是別人。沒有一台的矯正後數值事會一模一樣的Will never perfectly match at all。

每個版本的韌體也會影響矯正參數,所以也要到工程模式看新版韌體是否有修改一些畫質設定。 不過有儀器去測就知道是否有更改到畫質面。

至於中國的文章我是不會去領教的,我只會去看專業歐美玩家/評論家所提供的相關資訊。

是不是過於敏感了呢?

這裡不就是"討論"區嗎,怪了~

喔還有照你邏輯,我覺得兩台擺在一起拍照也沒必要因為之前有個壞例子,不如現場去看吧。我是不知道"討論"跟主題有關的相關資訊和矯正結果也不行啦。 總有不被尊重的感覺。討論區就是討論的地方呀~

喔還有啊~ 連說SONY出廠值精準度就很高了也會被幹礁~ 敏感人還真多~ 還是沒看清楚~ 還是A950在矯正後結果很穩會讓人不爽?

喔喔還有啊,那位玩家還有說它的測試結果跟CNET的沒有完全一模一樣。 例如 Color Accuracy 部分 他的出廠值藍色比CNET的偏。 CNET 拿到的版本比他的早。

兩台XBR8+A950明明就都很讚~ XBR8哪裡優點我不都也照說,什麼事實我不也都照說。還是A950的好與事實都不能說? 啊我之前的PO文都沒看嗎? 那個事實,為啥都沒人說還是到現場測才準啦,那些LED數量之類的,"與其" "不如" 看日機是否真的如此勇猛? 有那~麼的厲害? 兩套標準?

日本機不用到現場看就OK,韓國機還要到現場確認才可以? 日機看到要拼命讚賞,韓機看到還要假裝瞎掉?

我在說日本機時PO一堆相關資訊還有矯正值去討論時也沒有人那麼敏感啊~ 也沒有人駁斥,叫我說"與其" "不如" 之類的咧~

還是碰到韓國機就敏感了? 換個標準?

還有啥是Calibration懂嗎?!

Display Calibration: Root Fundamentals

The foundational and primary goal of display calibration is image fidelity (faithfulness to the original program). Video is a mass communication medium. The objective of any communication medium is to convey an original message as accurately and completely as possible. Any alteration of the message becomes a distortion of the original intent. Example: the parlor game where a circle of people pass a whispered message, delivered to the first person in the circle, then whispered to the next, on around the circle, and finally the last person announces what he thinks the message was. Invariably, each person alters the message slightly until the final recipient announces a garbled version that frequently bears little resemblance to the original.

The video industry is governed and guided by standards, engineering guidelines, and recommended practices, defined by organizations such as: the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE), the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), the International Telecommunications Union (ITU), the Advanced Television Systems Committee (ATSC), etc. These standards and practices are intended to encourage and preserve: signal, equipment, and program accuracy, integrity, unity, consistency, and repeatability, all along the chain from program production, through post-production, to exhibition/broadcast/tape/DVD/etc., and finally to the audience (consumer). If at any step along this path, industry standards are deviated from, the program becomes distorted.

Video displays used by program professionals are designed, manufactured and calibrated to tightly adhere to industry standards. They include in their design certain features that allow technicians to adjust them periodically (sometimes several times each day), using reference test signals, to insure picture accuracy. Such professional video monitors cost up to tens of thousands of dollars for relatively small sized screens. They must perform reliably for years, sometimes operating around the clock.

Consumer displays typically are designed, manufactured and adjusted at the factory to appeal to focus groups and the uninformed masses. Few consumers have ever seen a reference picture displayed on a calibrated broadcast or post-production monitor. Therefore, consumers are left to guess what their TV picture is supposed to look like.

Consumer TVs and projectors cost far less than professional displays. Manufacturers often cut corners to reduce costs in order to compete with one another in the marketplace. They also adjust their products at the factory to attract attention to their TVs on a show floor alongside samples of their competitors' wares. This could be compared to straining one's voice in a shouting match. Such over-accentuated pictures may dazzle the casual shopper but are not representative of correct pictures for regular viewing in the home. Video industry standards and practices are regularly deviated from and ignored by manufacturers. Fortunately, most consumer displays include adjustment features that allow someone who knows what they're doing to make the picture behave closer to proper standards.

Display calibration is simply making adjustments to the video device in order to achieve a more accurate picture. The artists who produce video programs want their intended audience to see what they saw on their calibrated professional monitors. Uncalibrated consumer displays cannot convey faithfully what the program originator intended. A distorted picture is the result. Artistic integrity is lost. Distortion reduces the value of any program and prevents the owner of the equipment from fully enjoying the capabilities of the display device they have purchased. The picture may be "watchable" and even enjoyable to an individual viewer- up to a point. Most consumers are never aware just how much better their programs can look if they were able to experience the picture the originator of the program envisioned.

Some consumers may actually prefer a distorted picture. For more discriminating viewers, there are resources available that help bring correct imaging into their home. Professional results can be obtained from consumer display devices with the right understanding, skills and tools. Reference test signals and simple tutorial programs have become available on DVD for many years to help the consumer make some picture adjustments. These programs are limited, however. The most complete resource for optimizing consumer displays is available in the form of professional calibration services. Such services can be performed by consumers but only after much study, investment in technical instruments, suitable aptitude, and perseverance. Hiring a trained professional is much less daunting to the average display owner.

In any case, the display owner must keep in mind that the goal of calibration is not to achieve a preconceived notion of what a "good" image should look like. The originator of a given video program is the one responsible for determining how the image is supposed to appear. The goal of calibration is to make the display behave as much like a professional monitor as possible. Ideally, the display should serve as a neutral and accurate communicator of the video signals delivered for the viewer. Only then can artistic integrity, display accuracy, and image fidelity be completely enjoyed. In the end, it's really all about correctly communicating the art.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
G. Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

"話不能亂講,東西也不能亂吃"

"Don't expect people to respect you if you don't respect them yourself!"

"Calibration isn't an art competition, art competition is for the original sources to do. Without calibration on a absolute inaccurate set, you will be looking at the distorted images, and will never be as good as a properly calibrated set. The source tells you to give it No.1 Red No.13 Green and No.4 Blue, and you gave it No.33 Red No.1 Green and No.15 Blue is not gonna get you a pretty picture I am sorry~"

謎音: "Calibration is not copying and pasting!!!"
"大"韓民國(半島)
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