太陽附近出現成群超巨大(地球size)UFO


Kazuki 和樹 wrote:
所以才有這麼多討論呀...(恕刪)



好!我說說我的看法
常常我們會聽說,米國發現某特殊磁場,能穿越時空,或蟲洞等等
米國人也常常訴說自己被綁架,或跟外星生物有所接觸等等。

我認為這些都是好萊屋電影的灌輸
通常有外星人穿鑿附會之傳說都是發生在消失的古文明
中國歷史兩千年,卻重沒出現過任何外星人之謠傳或紀錄。
兩千年間,如果外星人有意造訪,必當有紀錄。
兩千年有夠他們了解人類DNA遺傳密碼與生物構造。
沒必要在兩千年後當今資訊發達時代在來進行研究
中國也沒出現過麥田圈之相關記載

外星人之相關紀錄集中發生在1890-1990年代
這年代就是電影,相片發展之年代。而發明這兩樣東西的,就是米國。


然而果真的有外星生物造訪,必當完全封鎖其消息,但在我看來,他們卻假裝出包
卻讓這些消息任意傳撥。讓世人認為,這國家是強大的,是充滿神秘與未知的。
讓他國認為米國擁有強大的外星科技,讓人卻步。

以外星人來說,有意造訪地球,何必偷偷摸摸。
他們不必理會地球人之恐慌,他們不必理會地球經濟之大亂。


當年哈雷彗星經過地球時,全世界都看的道,如今如此般大之太空船,經過地球
卻只有少數人發現知道。這很不合邏輯,每天夜裡,仰看夜空的人,有多少

Cat Pajamas wrote:
好!我說說我的看法常...(恕刪)


說中國沒幽浮的記載,先看看這個...
google搜尋
文字記載的事件

只是那個時候不叫做幽浮。


另外會說幽浮偷偷摸摸的表示你沒看過星艦迷航(Star Track)

干涉另一個星球的文明不一定是好事......

ccyew wrote:
說中國沒幽浮的記載,...(恕刪)



恩...原來中國有紀錄,但2千年的歷史,目擊紀錄還沒有米國50年來的多

如果看了星艦迷航,就代表,又是一個好萊鎢的灌輸
以人類來說,發現另一個有生命之星球,絕對不會遠處觀看
這影片是去年9月吧
原本想刪除的
但是可看看這邪惡的計劃
用疫苗佈局

Jane Burgermeister談疫苗接種滅絕人類


重點:
之前世界衛生組織確實已經正在落實法律和技術框架好讓所有人注射疫苗
準備建立獨立於醫療體系外的疫苗中心

1.
利用這機會讓人們植入奈米晶片
明百特醫療公司和其他公司計劃將豬流感疫苗放入奈米晶片,只要接種一次就會感染
疫苗會是殺死接種人,並會創造出更致命病毒的元凶
(晶片用來追蹤人們生活,觸發整場大疫情的可能更高)

2.最初是找自願者接種疫苗

3.時候已到的時候,會散撥病毒,製造恐慌嚇唬人,好讓他們能夠大規模推行接種計劃.最終達到推廣"強制注射"
(假設有太多人拒絕的話,它們不可能強制執行注射)


P.S.假設政府達到目的,強制命令執行注射會是以下狀況
大多數人被警察局通知免費接種(上千萬的人也許不情願,但還是會去接種)
不去接種待在家裡,將會被通知是一種犯罪行為
最終警察去敲你家的門,讓醫生給你注射

政府不會強勢阻止這一危險計畫







幸好流感這一切都已經結束了

卡米洛特工程訪談-豬流感

Cat Pajamas wrote:
恩...原來中國有紀錄,但2千年的歷史,目擊紀錄還沒有米國50年來的多

如果看了星艦迷航,就代表,又是一個好萊鎢的灌輸
以人類來說,發現另一個有生命之星球,絕對不會遠處觀看


有文字記錄以來,中國也不只兩千年歷史

怎麼會說中國歷史兩千年? 這根據何來?

時空背景不同,科技水準不同,傳遞資訊能力不同 人口密度不同

以前有了什麼天災戰亂等大事 還要用快馬"六百里加急"才送的到皇帝手中

現在呢? 放到網路上幾秒內任何人都看的到

就算以前有很多目擊UFO事件 一般人的教育程度根本不能理解那是什麼 只會說天有異象

少數有受過教育的士子們見到了 最多也是把他寫入文章內 也沒有辦法拍照拍影片留傳後世

要用這個來推論以前沒什麼UFO事件邏輯不合

況且

就算是以現在的我們

假設有一天突然發現了某鄰近星球有智慧生命 ex.月球 泰坦

我們也不可能馬上登陸對他們say hello

要考慮的事情太多了

對方有無敵意以及能力對我們造成威脅 對地球人的影響為何 對他們的影響為何....等等

最好的方式就是觀察再觀察

Cat Pajamas wrote:
恩...原來中國有紀錄,但2千年的歷史,目擊紀錄還沒有米國50年來的多

如果看了星艦迷航,就代表,又是一個好萊鎢的灌輸

以人類來說,發現另一個有生命之星球,絕對不會遠處觀看


這也有些盲點

1. 二千年的歷史
就算有許多目擊 當時資訊傳遞並不發達
古代人也沒半人知道幽浮這個名詞

現在是因為傳播的技巧與資訊越來越進步 甚至有狂熱的粉絲在追查 才會那麼多資料
以前的民眾看到幽浮 東方大多認為是神明 西方人就認為是神蹟 不會有人去猜什麼幽浮

像是一般農民發現的話 史官會閒到沒事 被把沒證據的東西認真記錄下來嗎?
就算到現在民眾看到幽浮 但既沒拍到影片 也沒照片 會被當真實案件記錄下來嗎?

某種程度而言 古今中外都是有幽浮的記載 只是描述方式不同
而且會被歷史記載下來 某種程度已經算是被公認的目擊事件

2.以人類的觀點來看外星生物會怎麼看待地球上的人類 就是已經是種設限
就算是人類 有些人是什麼動物都吃 有些只吃某些動物 有些是吃素 有些還為動物發聲
連人的行為都百百種了 你又怎麼一言以蔽之外星人的態度?
疫苖陰謀論最後會不會改編成人人都是超能力者那樣啊...
嬰兒覺醒...爸爸媽媽覺醒...我們都醒了
嗯,我想你應該是想找人幫你寫報告~讓我幫你一下吧~

看看中國歷史~



中國歷史自中國商朝算起約有3600年,自夏朝算起約有4000年,自黃帝時代算起則約有4700年。有歷史學者認為,在人類文明史中,「歷史時代」的定義是指從有文字發明時起算,在那之前則稱為「史前時代」;歷史中傳説伏羲做八卦,黃帝時代倉頡造文字;近代考古發現了3350多年前(前1350年)商朝的甲骨文、約3000年前至4000年前的陶文、約4000年前至5000年前具有文字性質的龜骨契刻符號。

從政治和社會形態區分中國歷史,據考古資料顯示,約在早於距今6000年前的裴李崗文化晚期或者仰韶文化早期時代,中原地區從母系氏族社會過渡到了父系氏族社會。同時,原始社會平等被打破。而據有文字記載的歷史,商朝已經開始君王世襲,周朝建立完備的奴隸社會制度至東周逐漸解構,秦朝統一各國政治和許多民間分歧的文字和丈量制度,並建立中央集權政治。自漢朝起則以文官主治國家直至清朝。清末以降,民主政治、馬克思主義等各種政治思潮流傳,先是推翻帝制成立中華民國,三四十年後民國政府因內戰失敗而退守台灣。1949年,中國共產黨又在中國大陸建立了中華人民共和國。

由經濟形態觀察,中國古代人口主要由自由民構成,私有制、商業活動發達。周朝時商業主要由封建領主階層控制的官商貿易和庶民的自由貿易構成。秦漢以後實行中央集權,人口由士、農、工、商等構成,其中以從事農業的自由民為主體,是一個君權官僚制下的以土地爲主要生產資本的較為自由的商業經濟社會,一些重要的行業譬如油鹽米等由官商壟斷。除了農業,手工業以及商業貿易也有很大的發展。早在漢朝絲路的開通,促進了東亞與中亞至歐洲的陸上交通時,國際貿易早已起步;隋唐時大運河的開通促進了南北貿易;唐朝的盛世及外交的開放、交通的建設,更使各國文化、物資得以交流;宋代時出現了紙幣;元代時因為全面開通了商旅的關卡而導致與中亞的商業交流十分繁榮;明朝中葉實行海禁,清代則受到西方國家海上發展的影響,海上國際貿易發展迅猛。自中華民國成立起試圖建立民主國家,實行自由經濟,直到1990年代台灣落實民主制度,1950年代以後30多年迅速實現了向工業化社會的轉型;而中國大陸則在1949年後實行中國共產黨完全領導下的多黨合作和政治協商制度統治,起先為公有制的計劃經濟社會,改革開放後逐步向私有制的市場經濟社會轉型,該形態被稱為在宏觀調控下的中國特色市場經濟,同時,1980年代以來工業化發展迅猛,數億人口在短短20多年內從農民轉為產業工人(目前僅僅被稱為「農民工」的產業工人就達到約2億)。隨著中國的發展,中華人民共和國加入由中華民國作為創始會員國的關稅暨貿易總協定演變而來的世界貿易組織之後,中國經濟成為全球經濟中越來越重要的組成部分。


再看看中國史上的疑似幽浮記載的X-Files:
http://www.atlaspost.com/landmark-6493396.htm

由於古代知識有限,常把會發光、會飛的物體通稱為星星或隕石,但研究其飛行的方式,與出現的過程,有許多卻是用幽浮的現象才能解釋。像類似案件,在古中國正史中,可以找到千件以上的記載。以下是中國正史中有列入記載的UFO事件範例,野史傳說先不列入:


中國歷史上發現的UFO造型的描述


蘇東波遊金山寺的UFO奇遇


赤燄騰空﹝取自點石齋畫報﹞某年九月二十八日晚上,南京城的南邊突然有一團火球出現在天空,從西往東飛去,很像一顆巨大的蛋,是紅色的卻並不很亮,它飄浮在半空中,飛行的速度很慢。爭相觀賞的人有好幾百,約過數十分鐘,才越飛越遠終於消失了。


火羊飛天﹝取自點石齋畫報﹞某年正月初九晚上,湖南省長沙市正是萬里無雲,滿天星斗,突然大家鬨傳有大的像盤子一樣的火羊出現在夜空,由南向北很快速的飛過.
神火誌異﹝取自點石齋畫報﹞漢陽市郊的九直山,傳說山上住有神仙,每逢旱災,當地官員都會來這裡求雨,相當應驗。有一陣子每到夜深人靜的時候,往往就會有火光從山上射出來,有時像燈光,然後越來越多,噴出很多發亮的圓珠子,在山頂飛來飛去。珠子多的時候,連山峰岩壁都照的十分明亮。一直持續到天快亮時才慢慢消失.
1880年湖北松滋縣飛碟綁架案清朝‧湖北縣志記載:有一覃姓農人,於屋後山林發現光彩異常的不明物,前往捕捉,忽然身體飄舉入雲中,感覺神智不清,身體動彈不得,又忽然墜下落在高山上,如夢初醒,驚駭非常。遇到一樵夫問及才知身處貴州,與來處相差千餘里,只好沿途乞討回去,過十八天後才回到家。




我們再來看看外國人整理的(這些都只是九牛一毛):

Wikileads HAHA:
UFO sightings in China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_China

UFO China -- found in Youtube
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2458967493428649738#

Ref. URL:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/china.htm

UFOs in China
articles & documents
Airmiss in China 1995
Agence France Presse
A Chinese pilot preparing to land his aircraft on the Guizhou province airport, in South-West China, had to brutally change trajectory to avoid - not another plane - but a UFO, stated the Chinese daily newspaper "Nanfang Daily" yesterday. R

Aliens Among Us? Half of the entire Chinese Population Believes in UFOs
Pravda, Russia, Jan 2004
Hundreds of scientists and engineers conduct thorough studies of the unidentified phenomenon. According to Chinese ufologists, aliens live among humans. Ugologists also claim that recently aliens started to show more interest in China. Most recent UFO was spotted in Nanking, China. R

China sees UFOs and calls it science, not superstition
Associated Press, January 2, 2000
At the beginning of the new millennium, China is astir with sightings of otherworldly visitors. Such sightings are treated with unexpected seriousness in this country usually straightjacketed by its communist rulers. R

Chinese Air Force Pilot Plays Chase with UFO
Agence France Presse, Nov. 5, 1998
Newspaper story of the Chinese air force having a prolonged up-close encounter with a UFO, which the pilot described as an aerial cat-and-mouse game played between the object and a jet fighter ordered to intercept it. R

Chinese Scholars Tap Physics To Learn About Flying Saucers
Wall Street Journal, Nov. 7, 1997
In ever-changing China, which in places has rocketed from agrarian poverty to urban modernity in less than a decade, nothing seems impossible these days. Not even UFOs. That may explain why 60-year-old Sun Shili, professor of international trade at Beijing's University of International Business and Economics, is holding court at China's hallowed Academy of Science along with a South Korean delegation from something called the Embassy of Extraterrestrials. R

Chinese Scientists to Head for Suspected ET Relics
The People's Daily (China), June 24, 2002
A group of nine Chinese scientists will go to west China's Qinghai Province this month (June, 2002) to closely examine the relics thought by some to have been left by extraterrestrial beings (ET). R

CIA document: "China UFO Society Meets; To Continue Scientific Study"
CIA (reprinted by UFOs at Close Sight)
CIA document referencing a Beijing Xinhua news agency article on the meeting of the Fourth National Congress of the China UFO Society.

CIA reports on Chinese UFO studies
CIA (reprinted by UFOs at Close Sight)
An extract of a 4 page religious, political, cultural review of Asian countries, in which it is said that China's interest in UFO around 1980 can be seen by the interest of Chinese scientists in historical UFO cases in ancient China. We learn that there is a UFO controversy in China, that Chinese historians study traces of ancient UFO cases or presence, and that there are private ufology groups editing magazines in China just like in the Western world.

Close encounters across the Great Wall
Christian Science Monitor, Jan. 7, 2000
Chinese scientists seek funding to search for ET radio signals amid growing reports of UFO sightings. R

ETs Live Among Us Says Ex-China Foreign Ministry Official
Rosanne Lin - Shanghai Star - ChinaDaily.com, 7-20-2002
Considering the recent rash of UFO sightings over China, it is worth noting the opinion of Sun Shili, a retired foreign ministry official who is now president of the Beijing UFO Research Society - he believes waixingren (extraterrestrials) are living among us. R

Goverment-sponsored UFO conference in China, 1992
CIA (reprinted on UFOs at Close Sight)
CIA document referring to Beijing UFO conference held by the China UFO Research Organization.

Half of China sees mysterious light-emitting UFO, July 2002
UFOs at Close Sight
This UFO sighting, covering more territories than ever before, was the most completely documented in China today. R

Orange, red starmen over China
Shanghai Star (China), 7-18-02
Considering the recent rash of UFO sightings over China, it is worth noting the opinion of Sun Shili, a retired foreign ministry official who is now president of the Beijing UFO Research Society - he believes waixingren (extraterrestrials) are living among us. R

Rash of UFO sightings in China - Government Pays Attention to Phenomenon
The Associated Press (The Edmonton Journal (Canada), Sunday, January 2, 2000)
At the beginning of the new year, China is astir with sightings of otherworldly visitors and the sightings are treated with unexpected seriousness in a country led by no-nonsense communist officials. China has a bimonthly magazine - circulation 400,000 - devoted to UFO research. The conservative state-run media report UFO sightings. R

Sky Dragons Behind the Media Curtain: UFOs in China (skeptical)
James Oberg, special to Space.com, Jan 14, 2000
Whenever scientists studying a phenomenon suspect that the data have become contaminated by preconceptions or otherwise compromised, they seek new samples from farther afield. It's often their only hope to make any further progress. At first glance, UFO reports from China offer a similar advantage to the modern study of ufology. R

The UFO Phenomenon in China
Salvador Freixedo, Inexplicata (2000)
As was the case in Russia following Perestroika and Glasnost, there is a similar process underfoot in China since that country's opening to the West: more information has been known about this country's UFO activity over the past two years than for the past fifty. R

Three different airline crews report UFO sightings over China
Agence France Press (in Sydney Morning Herald), Nov. 8, 2002
Several airline pilots have reported sighting a shining unidentified flying object (UFO) near the south-eastern Chinese city of Nanjing, a newspaper reported yesterday (11/7/02). R

To Chinese UFO buffs, it's a serious science
CNN, April 12, 2002
UFO research is the stuff of sci-fi buffs and conspiracy freaks, but in China it's treated seriously. Joseph Wong, a lab manager at Hong Kong's City University, is a man of science. His job is to assess the structural performance of buildings. But familiar as he is with hard data, Wong is also a fan of the unexplained. R

U.F.O. Boom Doesn't Worry China's Rulers
New York Times, Jan. 11, 2000
The last few months have been a boom time for U.F.O. enthusiasts in China. Just before the start of the year 2000, there were dozens of sightings. Strange shining objects were observed scooting through the sky by hundreds of people, from former airport workers to college deans. The normally conservative official news media have been lavishing attention on U.F.O. news, with documentaries on the main government television station, CCTV-1, and credulous newspaper articles. R

UFO Scientific Conference in Darlian, China
China Daily, 1985 (quoted by Timothy Good)
In 1985, the government newspaper, China Daily, reported that a UFO Scientific Conference was held in Darlian, with some forty papers presented on various aspects of UFO research. R

UFO sighting one for Shanghai's X-Files
South China Morning Post, Dec. 1999
The usually staid state media in Shanghai carried reports yesterday that an unidentified flying object had been sighted in the city. In a front-page story, with colour photographs of an object resembling a meteor, the Wenhui Daily said the UFO was spotted over western Shanghai on Thursday afternoon. R

UFO Sightings Increase in China
Personal Freedom Outreach
China is a country where reports of the supernatural and unearthly are normally suppressed by the communist leadership. However, in the recent past few months, “China is buzzing with a rising number of UFO sightings,” according to an Associated Press news story. R

UFO/ET Mania Sweeping Beijing
Xinhua News Agency, July 31, 2002
"...science fiction mania spreads throughout China's capital this summer." R

UFOs Behind the Great Wall: A report on the state of UFOlogy in China
J. Antonio Huneeus, FATE Magazine, Volume 50, No. 9 September 1997
Ufology, formerly a forbidden subject in this country of more than one billion people, has only recently emerged from Chairman Mao's shadow. Modern research shows, however, that UFOs are not a new phenomenon in China. R

UFO's Over China ?
Reuters, July 3, 1993
News article on China UFO sighting in Urumqi. R

UFOs sighted in Beijing sky
Shangai Star, 4/25/02
Monday between 7:00pm and 9:00pm [April 22], many Beijing residents were startled to spot four spiraling and sparkling unidentified flying objects (UFOs) in the evening sky near Asian Games Village, Wa Li and Qing He. Over 10 readers called local media about the strange appearance, Beijing Times reported. R

US Intelligence Report on 1989 China UFO Sighting
FBIS at CIA (reprinted on UFOs at Close Sight)
Unclassified US intelligence document referring to a UFO sighted over Urumqi, China, in 1989.

websites & organizations
China UFO Photographs
Masujiro Kiru was going through his father's photo album from the China Campaign just before WWII when he found a photograph of a flying object. In the photograph one can see a low-domed disc-shaped object approaching a few hundred feet above the heads of the people, many of whom have stopped to look and some of whom are seen pointing up at the UFO.

China UFO sightings database - About.com
Database of China UFO sightings from different sources, compiled by About.com.

China: "The Truth is Out There"
La Voz de Galicia (newspaper-Spain), November 24, 2003
Half of the Chinese population believes in the existence of UFOs according to the results of a survey made known by the Outer Space Investigation Organization.

UFO Roundup - Articles on China
List of news stories and sightings of UFOs in China from the UFO Roundup archive.

UFOs in China !
UFO Folklore
UFOs -- a forbidden subject in Chairman Mao's day -- have been studied more closely in China since the late 1970s.


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The Chinese Roswell: UFO Encounters in the Far East from Ancient Times to the Present
Hartwig Hausdorf,
For this lifelong believer that humanity has always been observed by advanced off-world intelligences, a doorway was opened into ancient vistas never before glimpsed. CHINESE ROSWELL is a translation into English of a German text by Hartwig Hausdorf that clearly and concisely describes his investigations into unexplained mysteries of the Far East. Hausdorf's fascinating descriptions include unusually marked stone disks found in the Bayan Kara Ula Mountains, the probable existence of Shangri-La, a 1,000 foot white pyramid in Xian, the origins of the mythology of great winged dragons, and modern day sightings of possible extraterrestial craft.

Cat Pajamas wrote:
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我韃韃的馬蹄 是美麗的錯誤 我 不是歸人 只是個過客
haytt wrote:
嗯,我想你應該是想找...(恕刪)


very nice
血染征袍透甲紅, 當陽誰敢與爭鋒! 古來沖陣扶危主, 只有常山趙子龍。 -Keep Walking-
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