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juichi wrote:
新的Tiquan應...(恕刪)
原廠沒特別說,但車主手冊裡面應該還是有關於磨合該注意的事項.
我是2017 Golf R, 關於磨合的部分,還是有提到
1. 0~1000km, 引擎機件比較緊,引擎轉速不要超過最大轉速的 2/3
2. 1000~1500km 可以逐漸將引擎轉速提升到最大值.
1500km 磨合期內避免拖曳重物.
我個人是龜毛, 0~1000km 我堅持只跑省道,並且不超過速限, 盡量不用煞車,讓引擎自然減速.
1000~1500km 我才開始上高速公路,但我刻意晚上 21:00 以後去跑南二高,因為車很少,我可以用 100~120 km/hr 變速行駛.
直到 1500km 磨合換掉油後,才有幾次要超車火大讓引擎轉速到 5000 rpm..
我是打算 5000km 換油後,才讓引擎以有機會到紅線區.
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Ford 這顆引擎真猛....狠操 16.5萬英哩,馬力機測試出來的性能不變,分解檢查,引擎曲軸,渦輪,活塞環沒卡住,活塞表面的 Mo 鍍層還在,然後汽缸直徑仍在製造新品的規格內
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/408713-running-in-tsi-engines/
這篇國外討論 VW 的引擎在車主手冊中還是建議磨合,文很長,有興趣請慢慢看,要連後續的討論看完.
我截錄的重點如下:
若要我說簡單的重點就是,引擎的開發商是對該引擎最清楚的人,請依循他門建議的做法,目前 VW 車主手冊還是建議需要磨合的,只是他對磨合的引擎轉速已可以到 4000 rpm 了,在台灣一般代步應該都很夠用了,磨合期內如果想追求極致,那當然就會比較辛苦一點,就看車主是否要追求極致了..
而原廠對於機油消耗保固的條件我印象中是 2000km 消耗 1 公升的機油,就算一拿到車就惡操,要消耗到這樣應該也不容易才對...
VAG (including Škoda) do still include running-in advice, and as such it'd be prudent to follow it. Regardless of what the Internet says, the people who designed and built your engine are likely the ones who know how best to treat it. That said, nobody can pretend that Škoda manuals (especially) are very clear or detailed - especially when it comes to the topic of running-in. The guidelines are very general, open to interpretation, and - respectfully - often in some Czech version of 'Chinglish'.
Generally speaking though, the manual's suggestion involves not exceeding 3/4 of the rev range for the first 600 miles, and then progressively increasing the revs (including, shortly, trips to the red line when warm). The manual also advises not using full throttle, not labouring the engine at too low revs (manual gearboxes only, DSG would not allow this even in manual mode) and also not staying at constant speeds and revs for too long at a time during the running-in period.
Luckily, due to the aforementioned excellent manufacturing processes you won't find lots of swarf in your oil any more, and a running in oil change is no longer mandated.
Ideally, on delivery day you would have a route planned from the dealership and back home via the scenic route.
One important tip which all camps seem to agree on, no matter how they word it, is using the throttle to slow down as well as speed up, as much as you can. I don't mean full bore accelerations (though some do advocate this), but rather refraining from using the brakes as much as you can.
Rather if you're regularly cycling your speed between 30/40/50/60/70 (or more) and back again, doing it using 'acceleration sense' (i.e. by adding and removing throttle, without using the brakes) puts a lot of varying loads on the new piston rings, which in turn helps them 'seat' better against the cylinder walls.
In the long run that will aid low oil consumption and prevent glazing.
In the past I collected a new (diesel) car and - being young and naive - didn't quite get the gist of the whole 'drive it like you stole it / give it death' ethos. Having read online how white vans and hire cars are generally the fastest and loosest things on God's green earth, I literally ragged the poor bugger from cold, right to the red line over and over, and thought I was doing tremendously well. Until, that is, I realised even a year down the line it was slow and wheezy off the line compared to my brother's (identical, collected the same day) car and that I always got about 5mpg less than he on the same drives.
Don't mistake progressive and hard driving with a lack of mechanical sympathy.
Hi Rainmaker, really appreciated this topic.
Same here, not a mechanic or an engineer, but I've noticed a few things in my aprox 450,000miles driven so far in this lifetime :)
I too have learned that the first 600miles are crucial to the way the car behaves in her future. I am talking about oil consumption, fuel consumption and brake discs wear.
I really believe that running in in important - if you value your pride and joy and expect to have it in pristine condition - that's why VAG or some motorcycle manufacturers reccomend it.
No matter how good the "robots" are nowadays, perfect parts are difficult to phisically manufacture, so the first hundred miles are essential for the mating of the parts.
Same with brakes, the first 20-30 brakings are essential for how the brake pads are seated on the brake discs.
My "old school" running in for the current Superb was "overdoing it" - almost 3,000mile before she saw the redline and Sport mode, but, now, at 50k miles there is 0 oil consumption and I still run the original brake pads and discs.
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marco1963 wrote:
想問 , 外購油有福斯規範 , 可以與原廠油交互使用嗎 ?
外廠換油 , 15000時再回原廠 , 會被發現嗎
當然是可以
但是買了VAG的車, 真的很多觀念要改.
1.VW507 504規範的機油, 國外是可以跑3萬公里的 ,我們15000就換, 已經很保守了.
2.VAG車系的引擎, 設計上就是要能在無限速高速公路上,長時間以高速行駛幾十萬公里的, 非常耐操, 所以千萬不要順順開, 過了磨合期, 有機會就切M檔拉拉轉速, 不用擔心轉速高, 引擎聲大, 會傷引擎. 不常常拉轉, 長時間在2000轉以下行車, 引擎才容易因為積碳而產生疑難雜症. 這是我10年用車的經驗.
