換電只是過渡,可高速充放電才是未來

terrywan100 wrote:
查不到啊,你有查到就...(恕刪)

文章中有些連結已經失效,不過你打相關的關鍵字仍可下載政府官方資料

電動機車用電統計

難道不是嗎?你們誰提過任何數據?完全沒任何數據就批評豈不是無知?如果你認為這文章沒什麼問題,麻煩你改變觀念,廣為宣傳。
不論台積電還是電動汽車、機車,電力不是問題
台灣海峽有全球最好的風場,風力足夠台灣使用

目前廠商申請風力建置的容量,已經超出政府原先的規劃很多了。
太陽能也有很多在建置中。
未來數年風力發電機及太陽能陸續完成,電力會增加許多,再蓋2個3奈米廠都足夠。
燃煤火力發電也會逐步下降。
我誰呀,我瑪爾Gy耶!
發電機蓋路地上大家嫌吵,又會影響候鳥遷習,蓋海上施工過程又會影響海底生態,除非你可以控制白海豚轉彎,像我們偉大的前副總統一樣,太陽能生產污染那麼嚴重,頂多只是轉嫁到你看不到的地方而已,綠能是要付出代價的,德國可以是因為他們是大陸國家,可以向鄰國買綠電生產不足的電,台灣一個海島國家有辦法我是覺得很困難,老實說現在最佳的方法還是核電,我覺得比火力發電還乾淨

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tjptw wrote:
文章中有些連結已經失...(恕刪)
連到GGR官方討論區,然後最重要的政府連結失效...
改變觀念?你用GGR官方討論區的討論要改變誰的觀念?
ch000253 wrote:
工研院研究過全台機車都是電動車一起充電也不超過發電量0.7%
最先我想問的是這個,資訊是從哪來的?
結果就有人跑來插花,貼了篇討論區的討論。
再問又貼了篇GGR官方討論區的討論。
原來GGR官方討論區的討論=政府官方的研究數據

tjptw wrote:
我做什麼?我將別人計...(恕刪)
如果要比轉貼,我也來貼幾篇大家看看,客不客觀我不知道,但至少不是來自單一的GGR官方網站
工研院-電動車比汽油車環保嗎?

把汙染轉到別地方!電動車真的環保嗎?

論電動車和汽油車的排放對比

站著說話之——人見光夫炮轟的不是電動車,而是豬頭

「阻止空汙就是別開柴油車」?──「綠能環保」沒那麼簡單:從德國的「反柴油車風暴」,警惕台灣「能源危機處理」
我人在外面不方便找資料,不過你第一篇講新加坡的資料就錯了,後來新加坡政府更正讓特斯拉的車全部免稅優惠,新加坡政府搞個大烏龍。(自己去找,新加坡的當地報導有,是英文的)你那篇也是引錯誤資料,那位教授的文就被打臉別看了。


你到現在還無法答出電動機車用電到底佔多少比例,別故左右而言他,趕快回答。
terrywan100 wrote:
最先我想問的是這個,...(恕刪)

阿呆阿呆笨笨笨 wrote:
老實說現在最佳的方法還是核電,我覺得比火力發電還乾淨


我也支持核電,只要台電保證100%不出問題,出問題高層願誅九族,還有核廢料不要放在我現在居住及未來可能居住的縣市就好了.
terrywan100 wrote:

那不是我講的,是陽...(恕刪)

唉喲!幹嘛爭成這樣. 不好看啦!
如果有新核電的話我倒真的希望蓋我家旁邊
補助領爽爽. 我認真的.
電動機車如果很耗電. 為什麼我妹的candy 天天充電
可是電費和騎油車的時侯差不多.
換了新冷氣反而電費還少了點... 

tjptw wrote:
楊教授的文章有問題你放上來是要幹嘛?
我沒說楊教授的文章有問題,有問題是你講的,新加坡政府也是維持原罰款判決,搞烏龍是你自己說的吧?我只看到Musk急著去找新加坡總理李顯龍而已,不曉得要幹嗎?貼一下新加坡LTA針對這次事件的聲明,是英文的,新加坡官方正式的回應,你好好看看,新加坡政府有無說他們是錯誤的?如果你看得懂,麻煩你改變說法,廣為宣傳,不要再以訛傳訛。

新加坡LTA的聲明如下:
The Land Transport Authority (LTA) has been in discussion with Tesla on the recent case of an imported used Tesla Model S, which attracted a $15,000 surcharge under the Carbon Emissions Vehicle Scheme (CEVS).

All imported used cars, including used electric cars, have to be subject to emissions and fuel efficiency tests before they are allowed to be registered for use in Singapore. This is because the emissions and fuel efficiency of a used car, unlike a new car, can vary significantly depending on its prevailing condition, how it was previously driven and maintained, etc. The imported Model S was first registered in Hong Kong in 2014.

Based on tests run by VICOM Emission Test Laboratory (VeTL), Mr Nguyen’s used Model S had an electrical energy consumption of 444 Wh/km. An emissions factor of 0.5g CO2/Wh was then applied. This emissions factor, which is based on data provided by EMA, is consistently applied to electric and plug-in electric hybrid cars to account for the carbon emissions produced when the car is being charged. The outcome showed a carbon emissions level which placed this used car into the CEVS C3 surcharge band.

Electric cars are not carbon emissions free. They may not produce emissions from the tailpipe like conventional cars, but they take electrical power from the national power grid which has to burn fuel to produce the electricity, and in the process produces carbon emissions.

Tesla has informed LTA that based on the car’s original Certificate of Conformity, its energy consumption rating was 181 Wh/km when it left the Tesla factory on 28 June 2014. LTA confirms that a brand new Tesla Model S would thus have fallen into the CEVS A1 band, and enjoyed a rebate. However, Mr Nguyen did not bring in a new Tesla Model S, but a used car, and as is the policy for the import of all used cars, must be individually subject to emissions and fuel efficiency tests since LTA would not know how much the car’s condition might have deteriorated. We cannot make exceptions as it would not be fair to other car owners, and would have an impact on our environment-related policies.

LTA and VeTL will be working with Tesla engineers to look further into this case.

LTA welcomes electric vehicle manufacturers to bring clean and energy-efficient vehicles into Singapore. An EV model which was previously imported brand new into Singapore is the Peugeot Ion which enjoyed rebates in the CEVS A1 band.

Pemit Zhang wrote:
如果有新核電的話我倒真的希望蓋我家旁邊
補助領爽爽. 我認真的


現在用過的燃料棒沒地方放,都超量放在核電廠裡.您可以不要等核電廠蓋在你家旁,而是現在就可以搬到核電廠旁住領補助.
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