學生社運的末路


『學生社團的失控』是無能的政府,失真的媒體,和不願事實求證的民眾一起慣出來的,

之前幾次的抗爭,只要訴諸悲情,以懶人包替代事實的論述,

媒體推波助瀾,匯合對現現況不滿的人一起抗爭,學生社團無役不勝,政府也無力處理,

學生社團也自我膨脹,以為這套『公式』可以橫行無阻,

學生社團一走上『操弄』的捷徑,越走越偏執的死胡同,

而失控的後果,全台2千萬人一起承擔,終於引發民怨,



再想想我們和大陸簽署合約的過程,和後續的發展,不管是『yes』或『No』的意見,

如果國人不能理性處理,畏於民粹,

老實說,有哪一個國家敢和我們談合作,談合約,來投資。



外國CNN 報導的下的讀者留言,不見得相信一方之詞,老是告洋狀也許羞辱的是自己。


CNN : Taiwan Legislature occupiers' ultimatum passes without response from government

Viv Lo Ohnojuna • 2 days ago
Thank you for your attention to this crucial event in Taiwan, as a non-Taiwanese. I would like to explain it to you in this way: the major problem, as most people are opposed to, is that the government did not follow the legitimate procedure of negotiating, deliberating and passing of the pact. EVEN IF THEY DID, now people have doubts about it, but we receive no specific official explanation. A lot of scholars in the fields of Politics, Sociology, Human Rights and Law are analyzing the pros and cons of this pact, and have found it unfair and harmful to our economy. Most importantly, what the government have done is so against democracy. The Control Yuan (the institute of scrutiny) should start investigating into the members of the Legislative Yuan (our parliament), the supreme court judge should interprete the constitution, and the president should show up and explain everything. But we've got nothing so far. So we keep protesting, peacefully and rationally, waiting for the government to respond.
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Viv Lo :『謝謝關心這重要事件的人,民眾抗爭的主要原因是政府沒有依照法定程序來和大陸蹄結合約,也非法通過服冒。即使政府有依法進行,當民眾對服冒有疑慮的時候,民眾並沒有得到政府正式的回應解說。各界(政治/法律/社會學/人權)學者,分析了服冒的利弊,學者發現服冒對台灣經濟不公平且不利。而最重要的是,政府的作為是反民主。有關單位應該調查有無弊端,馬總統應該現身解釋。但是我們到目前為止抗議得不到回應,所以我們繼續和平理性的抗爭,等待政府的回應。』


BackHsu Viv Lo • 13 hours ago
Why do people ignore the fact that the terms and conditions of this trade pact was there for opposition and people's representatives to review sine last year? This trade pact was passed because there were no opinions and reviews from opposition. So if you want to blame someone, blame the opposition and people's representatives. NOT the president. He did his part, his group negotiated with China, he thought it will be beneficial to Taiwan. BUT never got feedback from opposition. That's why it is passed. How is that illegal? Tell me. Dig deeper, think about who started this protest, how and who are those people responsible for reviewing the terms and conditions. Blame them, not president.
This trade pact follows the legal terms and conditions of ECFA. ECFA is legal. This trade pact is just one of the branches of it.
Whether this trade pact is beneficial or harmful, well, there were analysis everywhere. Some say beneficial, some say harmful alright. NOT everyone say harmful.
And what this trade pact really brings is OPPORTUNITY! Opportunity is for those who are prepared.

BackHsu:『為什麼你們要忽略事實,自去年起,已有時間來給反對者和反對代表來審視服冒的內容,服冒會通過是因為沒有來自反對者的反對意見。如果你要抱怨,先抱怨那些反對者和該提出反對意見的審核代表。而不是怪總統。總統盡他的職責,而總統的團隊和中國談判協商合約,總統認為這個合約對台灣有利,但是反對者並沒有提出異議。這就是為何服冒會通過,為何這會是違法。告訴我,如果再深入探查,看看是誰開始這場抗爭,看看是誰該負責審核服冒,該負責的是他們,而不是總統。
ECFA是合法的,服冒是ECFA的延伸,服冒到底有何利弊,有的人說利,有的人說弊,但不是每一個人都說弊。而服冒事實上帶來的是機會,而這個機會是給那些已經準備好的人。』
2014-03-23 23:48 #1
可大概翻譯一下嗎. ."謝謝的啦. 是美人留的????
Erichuangtw1980 wrote:
之前幾次的抗爭,只要...(恕刪)
一句話就可以吐嘈回去,
當獨裁成為事實,革命就是義務

政府無能人民當然要起身反抗,
不然是要坐著等死嗎!!




Erichuangtw1980 wrote:
之前幾次的抗爭,只要...(恕刪)


"How is that illegal? ......This trade pact follows the legal terms and conditions of ECFA. ECFA is legal. This trade pact is just one of the branches of it. "

Oh, the reporter is so smart (or stupid) that he cannot understand!
人人狂舞呼萬歲 拍掌如雷欲震天 絕憐此輩真無智 逆反潮流愈顯然

很黯然 wrote:
可大概翻譯一下嗎. ...(恕刪)


Why do people ignore the fact that the terms and conditions of this trade pact was there for opposition and people's representatives to review since last year? This trade pact was passed because there were no opinions and reviews from opposition. So if you want to blame someone, blame the opposition and people's representatives. NOT the president. He did his part,

為什麼民眾都忽視了這個去年反對派和及其民意代表該審查的貿易協定條款與條件?這個貿易協定之所以獲得通過是因為沒有來自反對派的意見和反對。

所以,如果你想責怪別人,就該責怪反對黨和及其民意代表。而非總統。他只執行他的部分...

翻譯不好請見諒,當然實情是民進黨絕對是反對的,但好像看不出來太多的聲音。。
豆子小珍珠 wrote:




哈!!!
那你要不要解釋下,怎麼連撤銷王金平黨籍都辦不到?!
打你自己的臉,請你下手輕點。...(恕刪)

王金平誰阿…
你去叫馬跟你解釋拉…
有點難解~~~

因為當初是說好要逐條審~~~

這是立院的共識,可是有人想要30秒解決~~~

這該怎麼說呢???只因為馬下令盡快要過???

再怎樣也不應該跳過立院的共識,這是白紙黑字的東西~~~

很黯然 wrote:
可大概翻譯一下嗎. ...(恕刪)


已經翻譯。

pannchen wrote:
當然實情是民進黨絕對是反對的,但好像看不出來太多的聲音。。...(恕刪)


我反倒覺得其實民進黨絕對是贊成的,反對服貿只是作態與演戲而已!
人人狂舞呼萬歲 拍掌如雷欲震天 絕憐此輩真無智 逆反潮流愈顯然
草莓已經爛了!還沒嘗到美味,卻已臭肉來蠅!
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