Toyota Yaris十一月國產上市!!油耗數字先出爐!!

我想以國人的豐田情結來看

國產小車的市場又要大洗牌了

實在搞不懂其他車廠,像是中華三菱

他的Colt竟然要等明年底才上市

真的是不知道在想啥?

氣囊不要少啊!不然也至少列為選配才是!
其實我們不能一直拿說人家日本怎樣怎樣的

我不是車商的人,不過我還是要幫他們說,雖然我也很不喜歡這樣的行為

日本人口跟台灣不能比,所以日本什麼車型都會有,配備也很豐富

原因在哪,隨便每個月的銷量就是幾萬台,而台灣呢,有破千就慶祝囉

台灣沒有不想賺錢的商人,車商會這麼做我想還是因為成本考量

雖然我也常常看日規配備流口水
http://kyosukehot.pixnet.net/blog
我在意的不是配備
反而是售價和組裝品質
一樣的東西
為什麼差這麼多阿??
在台灣買車啥都由不得你選...只能選那些金光閃閃的電子花車裝備...
好一個賣方市場...
http://flashkeep.pixnet.net/blog
只出4門板的有點可惜
應該是先出四門再出五門吧

這種可愛的小車當然要5d或3d才漂亮 銷售量也會比較好
實用性也比較好

到底是先出5門還是先出4門, 小弟 一直聽說先出5門版,在Y拍已有豐田業務在報價了,預計11月10日發表!
flashkeep wrote:
在台灣買車啥都由不得你選...只能選那些金光閃閃的電子花車裝備...
好一個賣方市場...

是這個樣子的嗎?
如果買一台車, 結果上面都沒有這些 "電子花車裝備", 你不會跟業代凹? 你的朋友不會罵你笨? 你的親友不會笑你傻? 真的是賣方市場嗎?

最初是車廠創造需求沒有錯 (沒錯, 就是始作俑者 Cefiro), 但是現在呢? 現在都是消費者 "認為" 一定要有的, 不然就是坑人. 除了要有, 還要比好, 還要便宜, 請問, 哪來的要馬兒好又不給他吃草? 天下沒有白吃的午餐, 買車, 更不用說.

裕隆現在不是要推 "客制化" 嗎? 建議大家去 "計算" 一下, 空車價多少, 加上所有你要的 "非電子花車裝備" 又要多少錢.

車廠開發新車款是有成本的, 成本必須要攤在車價中, 成本才能夠回收. 一輛 Yaris 1.5 空車要三十萬好了, 加上相片中的前雙安, 前側雙安, 後側雙安, 六顆安全氣囊, 每顆成本算一萬塊 (有換過就知道, 車廠通常一顆算三萬), CD + MP3 + Aux In 要算多少錢? 五千塊嗎? 遙控電動中控鎖, 四門電動窗又要多少錢? 你知道這些東西在國外都是選配嗎?


小弟之前買一台上一代的 Toyota Yaris 1.5 T-Sport, 全配, 新車落地價將近新台幣九十萬, 扣掉英國坑人的消費稅 17.5%, 也要 76.6 萬. 我到網站上試算了一下新的 Yaris (有興趣去 http://www.toyota.co.uk 去算一算):


T Spirit 1.3 VVT-i Petrol Multi Mode (自手排五門款)
Total price: 12,605 英鎊 (以 1:60 來算, 約合新台幣 75.6 萬)

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以下是網站上 copy 的所有車型資訊, 是針對這台車的喔.

T Spirit 1.3 VVT-i Petrol Multi Mode (自排五門款)

Protection Pack
Give your new Yaris protection from everyday knocks and bumps with Scuff Plates, Mudflaps, Side protection mouldings, Bumper corner protectors, Boot protection plate and Textile floor mats.

Audio

Audio, integrated unique fit with Liquid Crystal Display
AM/FM radio with pre-set settings
RDS with PTY and EON settings
CD Player, single disc
CD Player, WMA/MP3 Reader
Speakers - 6
Audio controls, steering wheel mounted.
Radio Aerial, roof mounted
單片 CD 可讀 MP3/WMA, 方向盤控制器

Body exterior

Protection Pack ( Scuff plates, f&r mudflaps, side mouldings, corner protectors, boot protection plate, carpet mats)
Door handles and mirrors, colour keyed
Front grille, Mesh effect
Door handles: Colour keyed
與車身同色把手與後視鏡

Brakes

ABS - Electronically controlled with Electronic Brake Distribution
Front Disc Brakes - Ventilated
Rear Drum Brakes
Brake Assist System
前碟後鼓附 ABS 與 BAS

Bumpers

Front and rear bumper, colour keyed

Convenience

Smart start & smart entry system
Courtesy light, remote operation with delay
Fuel Cap, remote release
Assist grips: 2 front and 2 rear
Accessory power socket, front
Ashtray & cigar lighter
Vanity mirrors, driver and front passenger, with cover
Room lamp
Front map lamps
Load area lamp
鑰匙自動感應開門, 按鍵啟動

Instruments

Trip computer with fuel consumption & average speed display
Tachometer
Fuel indicator with low fuel warning
Water temperature indicator
Engine management warning
Lights On warning
Door Ajar warning
Outside temperature display
Digital odometer with trip meter / two trip meters
Digital Clock
Fuel Cap location indicator
Central high-mounted instrument console
Rear foglamp indicator
Passenger airbag cut-off switch
乘客座安全氣囊開關

Interior trim

Door inserts - Cloth
Fascia - Brushed Aluminium effect
Door Handles - Chrome effect

Lights

Fog Lamps - front
Fog Lamp, rear with auto cancelling
Manual headlamp levelling
High Mounted Stop Lamp
Interior light - front, centre & rear
有霧燈

Locks

Double locking with remote activation
Smart entry system
Transponder key engine immobiliser
Security window etching linked to 24hr ISR helpline
Steering column lock
Vehicle parts marking - major parts traceable to VIN

Loadspace

Fully trimmed boot
Interior tailgate pull handle
Rear parcel shelf - removable
Rear tonneau cover
Luggage area illumination

Storage

Dual glove box
Drivers glove box
Storage box - central console x 2
Underseat storage tray - passenger side
Driver storage compartment
Cupholder - rear x 1
Bottle holders in door bins

Safety

Airbags - Driver & front passenger airbags
Airbags - Front side airags
Airbags - Front & rear curtain airbags and drivers knee airbag
3-point seatbelts - five with Emergency Locking Retractor
3-point seatbelts - 2nd row outer seats with ELR & ALR
Seatbelts - front with electronic sensing, pre-tensioner & force limiter
Seatbelts - front, height adjustable
Child seat fixings - ISO-FIX outer rear seats
Headrests - all five height adjustable
De-coupling brake pedal mechanism
Side impact beams on all side doors
Head impact protection structure roof side and pillar
Energy absorbing crumple zones front and rear
Child proof locks on rear doors
Passenger airbag deactivation switch
Driver and passenger seatbelt warning light and buzzer
六顆安全氣囊, ISOFIX 安全座椅固定


Seats

Height adjustment - driver manual
Recline and slide adjustment - driver & passenger 3dr memory
Sliding & reclining rear seats
Easy Flat 60/40 split/fold rear seat back
Upholstery - cloth

Steering

Power Assisted Steering - electrically controlled, speed sensitive
Adjustable steering column - stepless tilt
Steering wheel 3-spoke with leather trim
Adjustable steering wheel with telescopic adjustment

Suspension

MacPherson strut front suspension
Torsion beam rear suspension

Transmission

Multi-mode manual transmission

Ventilation

Air conditioning system - climate control
Air re-circulation function - manual
Clean air filter
恆溫空調

Visibility

Front wipers - Twin speed & fixed intermittent / with mist function
Front windows - electric with "one-touch", & drivers window anti-trap mechanism & key-off function
Rear screen - heated / with timer
Rear wipers - intermittent and continual sweep
Exterior mirrors - electrically adjustable
Glass - green tinted

Warranty

Three year / 60,000 mile mechanical warranty
Three year unlimited mileage paint warranty
Six year unlimited mileage anti corrosion perforation warranty
Twelve year unlimited mileage anti corrosion perforation warranty

Wheels

15" 5-spoke alloy wheels with locking wheelnuts
Space saver spare wheel
15" 鋁圈
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這還只是 1.3L 引擎, 台灣聽說要用 VIOS 那一顆 1.5L 引擎, 所以價格又更高一點, 下面的配備看一看吧, 這比較接近台灣會賣的配備, 台灣八成還有一些怪機絲會跑出來, 你說這樣一台車要賣多少錢?

順便提一下空車價:

Engine: 1.0 VVT-i Petrol Manual (1.0L 三門手排版特殊樣式 (就是特別便宜的樣式))
Total price: 7,995 英鎊 (以 1:60 來算, 約合新台幣 48 萬)

====================================================
以下是配備清單:

Audio

Audio, integrated unique fit with Liquid Crystal Display
AM/FM radio with pre-set settings
RDS with PTY and EON settings
CD Player, single disc
Speakers - 4
Radio Aerial, roof mounted
有單片CD, 但是不能讀 MP3 / WMA, 也沒有 AuxIn

Body exterior

Front grille, Mesh effect
Door handle: black

Brakes

ABS - Electronically controlled with Electronic Brake Distribution
Front Disc Brakes - Ventilated
Rear Drum Brakes
Brake Assist System
前碟後鼓, 但有 ABS 與 BAS

Bumpers

Front and rear bumper, colour keyed

Convenience

Fuel Cap, remote release
Assist grips: 1 front
Accessory power socket, front
Ashtray & cigar lighter
Vanity mirror, front passenger, with cover
Room lamp
Front map lamps
Load area lamp

Instruments

Trip computer with fuel consumption & average speed display
Tachometer
Fuel indicator with low fuel warning
Water temperature indicator
Engine management warning
Lights On warning
Door Ajar warning
Outside temperature display
Digital odometer with trip meter / two trip meters
Digital Clock
Fuel Cap location indicator
Central high-mounted instrument console
Rear foglamp indicator
Passenger airbag cut-off switch
有關閉乘客座安全氣囊開關喔

Interior trim

Door inserts - Cloth
Fascia - Brushed Aluminium effect

Lights

Fog Lamp, rear with auto cancelling
Manual headlamp levelling
High Mounted Stop Lamp
Interior light - front, centre & rear

Locks

Double locking with remote activation
Transponder key engine immobiliser
Security window etching linked to 24hr ISR helpline
Steering column lock
Vehicle parts marking - major parts traceable to VIN
有遙控鎖, 夠誠意

Loadspace

Fully trimmed boot
Interior tailgate pull handle
Rear parcel shelf - removable
Rear tonneau cover
Luggage area illumination

Storage

Dual glove box
Drivers glove box
Storage box - central console x 2
Underseat storage tray - passenger side
Driver storage compartment
Cupholder - rear x 1
Bottle holders in door bins

Safety

Airbags - Driver & front passenger airbags 前雙安
3-point seatbelts - five with Emergency Locking Retractor
3-point seatbelts - 2nd row outer seats with ELR & ALR
Seatbelts - front with electronic sensing, pre-tensioner & force limiter 電子感應式安全帶, 預緊與力量控制器
Seatbelts - front, height adjustable
Child seat fixings - ISO-FIX outer rear seats ISOFIX 安全座椅固定器
Headrests - all five height adjustable
De-coupling brake pedal mechanism
Side impact beams on all side doors
Head impact protection structure roof side and pillar
Energy absorbing crumple zones front and rear
Passenger airbag deactivation switch
Driver and passenger seatbelt warning light and buzzer

Seats

Recline and slide adjustment - driver & passenger 3dr memory
Sliding & reclining rear seats
Easy Flat 60/40 split/fold rear seat back
Upholstery - cloth

Steering

Power Assisted Steering - electrically controlled, speed sensitive
Adjustable steering column - stepless tilt

Suspension

MacPherson strut front suspension
Torsion beam rear suspension

Transmission

5 speed manual
五速手排

Ventilation

Air re-circulation function - manual
沒有冷氣喔

Visibility

Front wipers - Twin speed & fixed intermittent / with mist function
Front windows - electric with "one-touch", & drivers window anti-trap mechanism & key-off function
Rear screen - heated / with timer
Rear wipers - intermittent and continual sweep
Exterior mirrors - electrically adjustable
Glass - green tinted

Warranty

Three year / 60,000 mile mechanical warranty
Three year unlimited mileage paint warranty
Six year unlimited mileage anti corrosion perforation warranty
Twelve year unlimited mileage anti corrosion perforation warranty
才三年六萬公里有限保固喔

Wheels

15" steel wheels with full wheelcaps
Space saver spare wheel
15" 鐵圈喔
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現在我們來做個比對:

T Spirit 1.3 VVT-i Petrol Multi Mode (自手排五門款)
Total price: 12,605 英鎊 (以 1:60 來算, 約合新台幣 75.6 萬)

Ion 1.0 VVT-i Petrol Manual (1.0L 三門手排版特殊樣式 (就是特別便宜的樣式))
Total price: 7,995 英鎊 (以 1:60 來算, 約合新台幣 48 萬)

兩者差了約新台幣 27.6 萬
綜合一下主要的差異:
1. 單片 CD 多了 MP3 /WMA 讀取功能.
2. 五門比三門貴 (五百英鎊, 算新台幣三萬塊)
3. 自手排比手排貴 (六百英鎊, 算新台幣三萬六千塊)
4. 多了四顆安全氣囊 (約略一千塊英鎊, 算新台幣六萬塊)
5. 多了方向盤上的音響控制
6. 多了恆溫空調 (1.0 Ion 沒有冷氣喔)
7. 多了方便鑰匙進出與按鍵啟動裝置
8. 多了霧燈
9. 多了鋁圈
10. 多了車身同色把手與後視鏡

先扣掉引擎大小差價 (1.3 與 1.0 差五百英鎊, 算新台幣三萬塊), 再扣掉自排手排差價, 再扣掉三門五門差價, 再扣掉安全氣囊差價, 剩下的差價是約十二萬台幣, 光是有沒有冷氣就可以再削掉個幾萬塊, 這其中那些所謂的 "電子花車裝備" 占多少?

值得注意的是, 1.0 Ion 不因為車價便宜就削減安全裝備, 跟頂級的比起來, 煞車一樣都是前碟後鼓加 ABS 與 BAS, 一樣有 ISOFIX, 安全帶一樣是電子感應式安全帶, 預緊與力量控制器, 除了差了四顆氣囊之外, 基本的安全性並不打折扣, 這, 才是國內車廠要學習的. 而不是今天為了要削減售價, 連前雙安都不給, 連 ABS 都不給, 更別提說 BAS, 有多少國產車有 ISOFIX? 安全帶偷打折扣, 這些都是我們看不到的, 有多少駕駛知道車上的安全帶是屬於哪一種類型的?
希望這台車上市後,可以刺激 Honda 趕快進FIT
這車在澳洲這邊早就已經滿街跑了...不過最多的還是牛頭牌Corolla AE123了啦!!!
出五門的啦



另外一篇討論裡面有說到用四門申請只是為了要可以拿來當小黃...
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