meridian wrote:
數據會說話, 油電車...(恕刪)


我在之前就問過你好幾次了:在台灣合法速限下,哪一款類似車體大小的柴油車高速燃油效益高於prius?還是你覺得,照速限開,就叫做「慢慢開」?
家裡老爸的PRIUS 2代

大多每個禮拜從台南~台中來回兩趟

也是高速為主(70~80%)

高速路段也是跟速限跑(110~120KM/h)

有時也高於速限10多公里

跑出20KM/L 的油耗...


柴油車不是不好 油電車也不是最好

看個人用車條件而定啦!

只是現代科技來說...

開著油電車那種感覺... 真的不一樣~

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油電車的保養,汽油成本 應該是最低的吧!!!

每萬公里換機油 每4萬公里換煞車油 空氣濾芯 冷氣濾網

好像要10來萬公里才換變速箱油...

這保養成本 還不低嗎???

心有霖西
blhsing wrote:
Prius三代改用1...(恕刪)


我是路人甲

沒車這一兩年內也不會買車

一堆人批評他說"感覺"油電高速不省油

但實際上人家也拿出數據了

你說的拿2006年的二代P不公平

那你也拿出一個二代P以後省油的數據吧

也不要是"感覺"

robber2011 wrote:
家裡老爸的PRIUS...(恕刪)


可惜就是車價高了點

如果能壓在100萬以內 拿來通勤代步 真的是很有吸引力的一台車
joejerry wrote:
我是路人甲

沒車這一兩年內也不會買車

一堆人批評他說"感覺"油電高速不省油

但實際上人家也拿出數據了

你說的拿2006年的二代P不公平

那你也拿出一個二代P以後省油的數據吧

也不要是"感覺"
這是來自Road and Track的油耗實測,對象為Prius vs. Golf TDI vs. Fiesta。

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/comparison/hybrid-reality



路段1:通暢的濱海公路


路段2:紅綠燈多的市區


路段3:市區與接近高速的綜合


路段4:峽谷殺彎道


路段5:大致通暢的高速公路


路段6:部分路段塞車的高速公路


路段7:擁擠的市區


路段8:通暢的高速公路,使用70mph定速(可發現Prius的領先幅度在此達到最小)
關閉空調:

開啟空調:


總平均油耗:


註:50mpg = 21.26km/L,煩請自行換算。
joejerry wrote:
我是路人甲沒車這一兩...(恕刪)


底下是Road and Track在2010年進行的路上實測。
細節自己看吧,都這種陳年舊事了。重點是,即使是在大部分路段定速70 MPH (相當於112 KmPH)狀態下,prius燃油效益還是高於Golf柴油1.6。

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/comparison/hybrid-reality
maken wrote:
底下是Road and Track在2010年進行的路上實測。
細節自己看吧,都這種陳年舊事了。重點是,即使是在大部分路段定速70 MPH (相當於112 KmPH)狀態下,prius燃油效益還是高於Golf柴油1.6。

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/comparison/hybrid-reality
呵呵,maken兄也還記得這一篇。先你一步了。
meridian wrote:
數據會說話, 油電車...(恕刪)

數據會說話......德國AutoBild雜誌測試出來的數據,也要用大腦判斷它說的是真話還是假話
(老外說這本雜誌經常當笑話在讀)

圖表原始來源
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/fuel_consumptio.html
摘錄一些內文老外的回應

The graph shows the fuel consumption of the Prius at 36 mpg at 60 mph. In European figures that's something like 6.5 l/100 km. This is completely wrong. Every Prius owner knows that. My worst fuel consumption on a tank of gas was about 5.5 l/100 km, on holiday to France. Air conditioner always on, average speed 110-113 km/h.

I don't know about the other cars, could be these figures are incorrect too, but do not take these figures at face value. Does anyone know what's wrong with these figures?

Posted by: anne | May 22, 2006 at 04:36 AM
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I question their numbers. This article claims that the Prius gets about 37 MPG at 60 MPH. I have never gotten less than 42 MPG at 60 MPH in my Prius (2004, 56,000 miles) and only that low with bad weather and cold temperatures. My normal highway MPG is just under 50 MPG and that's averaging 65 MPH and with the AC on. These testing organizations should get an education on how to set up a car for good efficiency.

JeffD

Posted by: jeffd | May 22, 2006 at 04:45 AM
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on a 300 mile round trip last weekend, all freeway, my prius averaged exactly 49.1 mpg with the cruise control set at 70. how on earth were these people able to get mid 30's !?!?!?

Posted by: coal_burner | May 22, 2006 at 04:55 AM
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Don't trust these measurements. I agree with the above comments : consumption figures for the Prius are pure nonsense (I am a Prius owner). This AutoBild magazine is the German equivalent of the French AutoPlus, a cheap car magazine which is certainly not much more valuable than the paper it is made with. Kind of "absolute zero" on the automobile press scale. It has become usual to laugh at it every time it reveals the "true cost of ownership" or "true consumption" of cars, here in France.

Still, it's nice to make clear that driving very fast is not "green". :-)

Posted by: François | May 22, 2006 at 05:02 AM
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I love these speed/mpg studies in theory, but the data looks bad to me. Not least because I consistently rack up 50 mpg in my Prius at 65 mph highway.

I found a bunch of reports here:

http://www.hybridcars.com/discussion/discussthread.php?thread_id=410&replies=44

a couple guys say the "real world" number is 42 mpg at 80 mph. one guy gives a table, based on his experience:

60 MPH: 55 MPG
65 MPH: 52 MPG
70 MPH: 48 MPG
75 MPH: 44 MPG
80 MPH: 42 MPG

I guess my experience matches that - the small 65/70 difference could be hidden by head/tail winds or slight grades.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: odograph | May 22, 2006 at 06:30 AM
他可能沒辦法提供給你

因為有人只會活在過去

沒辦法展望未來


bookworm99 wrote:
六年前的數據,不客觀...(恕刪)
01有很多魔人,都覺得"自己講的才是對的"
blhsing wrote:
呵呵,maken兄也...(恕刪)


其實我記得還有另一篇五輛車的集評,不過一時找不到。
這種吵高速油耗的話題之前早吵過N遍了,當時我也說了,願意和柴油車主進行高速公路實測。不過後來對方沒再聯絡。
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