看了國外網站幾張F30底盤照片 怎麼感覺懸吊連桿跟消音氣怎麼現在跟日系車長的很像 是因為輕量化還是偷工減料阿 上代E90 這兩個部份看起來都粗壯很多


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這樣子你就看的出來???????

用這照片就可以看出車子的比較上的差異

好神!

像日系車就叫做"偷工減料"?????

我都開德國車...但也不否認日系車也有很棒的車款跟設計!

真不知道你的需求到哪?
版大的意思可能是要突顯新舊世代的差異.

冶金技術也是有長足進步的, 無論是手機外殼或車輛底盤.

版大所謂的日系車, 應該是指以經濟取向的在台組裝車吧.
而心中不平的是: 以性能取向的米漿底盤,怎麼可以長得像台裝車!
參考一下裡面的比較照片
http://www.f30driver.com/forum/showthread.php?t=906777

「..The upper link on the F30 suspension is noticeably different from the E90. Both look like they were grown out of aluminum with their strange organic shapes but the F30 seems more refined. The F30 link is also 25% thicker and benefits from a solid inboard bushing. You can just make out the webbed openings on the inner E90 bushing in the picture. Despite the changes in shape and bushing the arm length and ball joint angles are very similar. 」
版大您也真是厲害
這樣就能知道日系車偷工減料
難不成您的眼睛有透視探傷法
比超音波、磁粉還強。


愛快手 wrote:
這樣子你就看的出來?...(恕刪)


就是看不太出來才來01討論阿 我又沒說他們就是偷工減料


accessdenied wrote:
參考一下裡面的比較照...(恕刪)


感謝聯結 所以上連桿還是比較粗點 不過聯結裡面也說到SUB-FRAME從E90 全鋁合金 改成鋼的 可能是基於成本考量
The biggest change up front is the steel sub-frame. BMW used an aluminum sub-frame on the E90 to save weight. The front and rear sub frames are the largest single components on the car and probably the heaviest after the engine. Why BMW reverted to a steel sub-frame (E46 generation technology) when weight savings was such a priority on the F30 is still a mystery.


還有F30後懸吊也是改為鋼﹐ E90 下連杆是全鋁合金﹐ 而且F30 只是用鋼片壓出來的﹐ 這部分我覺得差最多 因為從E90 後面看可以清楚看到鋁合金懸吊臂 ﹐F30 只是看到薄薄的鋼片壓出來的懸吊臂﹐ 感覺起來跟傳統德系車子質感就少了什麼

"In another bizarre reversion to steel the F30 rear suspension is all steel, where the lower link on the E90 was aluminum. The other four links are made of stamped steal, like the E90 but the F30 links appear thinner, but also more refined."


linmasai wrote:
版大您也真是厲害這樣...(恕刪)


我有比較過E90的消音器跟新的好像在製程上少了點 新的完全是光滑的跟一般日本平價車一樣只是用鐵皮捲起來 E90有壓槽設計 感覺上要費比較多工序比較有質感

E90



F30


各位大大不好意思小弟只是對車子細節比較吹毛求疵 感覺3系列這麼經典的車子 不應該從一般人看不到的地方節省成本
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