台美規不同? 凌志轎車暴衝 消保官:業者疑隱瞞瑕疵真相

blhsing wrote:
一堆不求甚解的人,從...(恕刪)

當初09年腳踏墊召回文章。
Toyota Announces Details of Remedy to Address Potential Accelerator Pedal Entrapment
The models involved are: 2007 to 2010 MY (model year) Camry, 2005 to 2010 MY Avalon, 2004 to 2009 MY Prius, 2005 to 2010 MY Tacoma, 2007 to 2010 MY Tundra, 2007 to 2010 MY ES350, 2006 to 2010 MY IS250, and 2006 to 2010 MY IS 350.
The specific measures of the vehicle-based remedy are as follows:

1. The shape of the accelerator pedal will be reconfigured to address the risk of floor
mat entrapment, even when an older-design all-weather floor mat or other inappropriate floor mat is improperly attached, or is placed on top of another floor mat. For the ES350, Camry, and Avalon models involved, the shape of the floor surface underneath will also be reconfigured to increase the space between the accelerator pedal and the floor.

2. Vehicles with any genuine Toyota or Lexus accessory all-weather floor mat will be provided with newly-designed replacement driver- and front passenger-side all- weather floor mats.

In addition, as a separate measure independent of the vehicle-based remedy,
Toyota will install a brake override system onto the involved Camry, Avalon, and Lexus ES 350, IS350 and IS 250 models as an extra measure of confidence. This system cuts engine power in case of simultaneous application of both the accelerator and brake pedals.

The brake override system will be made standard equipment throughout the Toyota and Lexus product lines starting with January 2010 production of ES350 and Camry and is scheduled to be incorporated into new production of most models by the end of 2010.
The safety of our owners and the public is our utmost concern and Toyota has and will continue to thoroughly investigate and take appropriate measures to address any defect trends that are identified.
文章出處:http://www.lexus.com/recall/pdf/Pedal_Entrapment_Recall_Press_Release.pdf
當初確實是因腳踏墊召回,但處理方式有兩種。

blhsing wrote:
CTS油門的內部結構的設計的確完全不一樣。請讀此分析報導:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/why-toyota-must-replace-flawed-cts-gas-pedal-with-superior-denso-pedal/

這篇報導指出有數款不同設計,我同意不同設計的話就要另當別論。
但設計者全都是Toyota,因此Toyota不可以把責任推給CTS。

we must acknowledge that Toyota is ultimately responsible for both designs.
Toyota必須為各種不同設計負責
chai98 wrote:
當初確實是因腳踏墊召回,但處理方式有兩種。
並不是。文中所列的是所有召回車輛會進行的兩個處理項目,並不是說一部分車款使用第一種方式,另一部分車款使用另一種方式。
台美規配備不同,這可信.

但是機械結構很難說不同.看一下ES的生產地也只有日本爾已

反正大概很快就草率結案了.

就像某牌的變速箱鬧問題一樣最後的答案是草率結束....
alanchentw wrote:
這篇報導指出有數款不同設計,我同意不同設計的話就要另當別論。
但設計者全都是Toyota,因此Toyota不可以把責任推給CTS。
we must acknowledge that Toyota is ultimately responsible for both designs.
Toyota必須為各種不同設計負責
本該如此。Toyota本來就沒有把責任推給CTS。我的重點只在於這次的新聞裡的事件中葉先生在一知半解下認為是油門該召回卻未召回是個張冠李戴的錯誤認定。

球德洛 wrote:
不過蔡女士的先生葉先生進一步調查才發現,其實這一款LEXUS ES350轎車都是從日本廠出廠,銷售到各國


同樣是從日本廠出貨,因此採用相同零件的機率很高,不是嗎?
消保官要查他,我認為十分合理。到底是否用同樣設計規格,查了就知道。
alanchentw wrote:
同樣是從日本廠出貨,因此採用相同零件的機率很高,不是嗎?
消保官要查他,我認為十分合理。到底是否用同樣設計規格,查了就知道。
並不是。CTS生產的油門只有安裝在美國國產的Toyota(我想你可能不知道Toyota在美國銷售的車款幾乎都是在美國當地生產的,會選擇美國本土的零件供應商CTS也是很自然的),與日本生產的使用Denso油門的Lexus以及其它地區的Toyota無關。
人家送來台灣的是特別規格訂做的...只有送美國的規格才會爆衝啦..
誰知道製造品質世界第一的日本

保證不會有出包過的問題?又誰能保證日本廠商都很有信用?

這答案恐怕也只有它們當地人知道爾已....



整天沒在做事的屁孩 wrote:
誰知道製造品質世界第一的日本

保證不會有出包過的問題?又誰能保證日本廠商都很有信用?

這答案恐怕也只有它們當地人知道爾已....
Denso油門使用的是彈簧,完全卡不住。要無的放矢也請你想出個讓彈簧卡住的方法教教大家。
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