空軍姦殺女童冤案 --- 反廢死 vs 廢死


不想再說 wrote:
15年前這個案子發生...
癈除死刑是承認人的能力不足,無法對同是人處以對於無法回復之極刑.
(恕刪)


先把國文學好再來發言好嗎? 別字那麼多
照你的論點,
那如同陳進興此類 罪證充足不會有冤獄的人, 不就該早早槍決了
現在這40多個死刑犯多數都屬此類
ruby6436 wrote:



先把國文學好再...(恕刪)


早就把他給黑名單了O.O

和那種人說話是浪費生命

只會一直loop 毫無新意
TA292001 wrote:
早就把他給黑名單了O...(恕刪)


有人在和你說話麼?成熟點..

沒能力的人才只會用黑名單來製造杜鵑窩.

要漫罵.請自便.
ruby6436 wrote:
先把國文學好再來發言...(恕刪)


沒有本事,說不出道理的人,才會先攻擊其它有沒的.

先聽懂別人的話....
下面是尚未癈除死刑的美國人的自省.

美國伊利諾州通過癈除死刑

可以看到人家說癈除死刑,但也更強調要照顧受害者的家人和心情.

Illinois death penalty ban sent to Gov. Pat Quinn

SPRINGFIELD --- A historic measure to abolish the death penalty in Illinois passed the state Senate today after nearly two hours of impassioned debate.

The ban on executions goes to Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn, who must sign the legislation for it to become law. During last fall's campaign, Quinn said he supports "capital punishment when applied carefully and fairly," but also backs the 10-year-old moratorium on executions. (See Question 4 here.)

The Senate voted 32-25 to approve the ban, with two members voting present. The measure passed the House last week.

You can see how your state senator voted today by clicking here. You can see how your House member voted last week by clicking here.

Sponsoring Sen. Kwame Raoul, D-Chicago, urged his colleagues to “join the civilized world” and end the death penalty in Illinois.

Raoul spoke of how authorities were certain when they prosecuted Jerry Hobbs and Kevin Fox for killing their own little girls. Both confessed under coercion and both were exonerated by DNA evidence. The senator spoke of is 10-year-old daughter and how he could not imagine what a wrongly accused father would go through.

Illinois “ought to be embarrassed” by its track record of wrongful convictions, Raoul said, “because if an execution were to take place, it takes place in the name of the people of Illinois.”

Sen. John Millner, R-Carol Stream, a former Elmhurst police chief with experience of interviewing more than 1,000 defendants, called for making more reforms to the system before eliminating the death penalty. He also called for more training of police officers, including how to avoid false confessions.

“I ask you all, please,” Millner said, to consider a crime victim’s families.

Sen. Willie Delgado, D-Chicago, a former parole agent, cited how he worked in the attorney general’s office when the wrongful convictions of Rolando Cruz and Alejandro Hernandez were examined.

“Ladies and gentlemen, the system is broken,” Delgado said. He maintained “death is too good for some folks” and said they should be allowed to sit in prison for natural life, where they can “rot and think about what they have done.”

Sen. Kirk Dillard, a Hinsdale Republican who worked on death penalty reforms now in place, said the people of his district believe in executions for mass murderers and killers of police, prison guards and children.

“I think there’s still a place for the death penalty for the worst of the worst of our society,” Dillard said.

Dillard and Sen. Bill Haine, an Alton Democrat and former Madison County state’s attorney, called for putting the question before Illinois citizens.

But Sen. Toi Hutchinson, D-Olympia Fields, said lawmakers are elected to make the tough decisions, and she called on colleagues said Illinois should break company with Afghanistan, China, Iran, Iraq, Congo, Saudi Arabia and other countries that allow the death penalty.

“We’re here because we’ve seen countless examples of the fact that the system has failed,” Hutchinson said. “This question is not about the people who we know did it. It’s about the people who were convicted who didn’t. It’s about our system of justice is actually predicated upon the protection of the innocent and executing one innocent person is too high a price to pay.”

Sen. Dan Duffy, R-Lake Barrington, argued that 20 people sent to Death Row in Illinois have been exonerated and the taxpayer costs have been too great to be left with an ineffective and expensive use of scarce resources.

“What we have learned after all this time is that the system cannot be fixed,” Duffy said.

Sen. Jeff Schoenberg, D-Evanston, said he has long prayed over the death penalty issue but that the system in Illinois “is not marginally flawed. It is irretrievable broken.”
如果我說得你不懂,

去看看鐵案疑雲《The Life of David Gale》吧!

再不然,CSI好了,你還相信所謂的鐵証嗎?

不想再說 wrote:
如果我說得你不懂,去...(恕刪)


鐵證呦

台灣有哪個平民會拿槍

有哪個平民會拿槍去挾持人質被警察包圍

拜託,白曉燕案子鬧成這樣

別坳了.......

媒體追成這樣......


光是非法持有槍枝就有問題了!!!

更別說其他部份了......


說有的案子私下處理的公正性怎樣我們是不知道


但是那種幾十個人拿棍棒在路邊圍毆一個人把人打死的
都被攝影機拍的很清楚了
還能辯嗎

今天換做自己親人被人亂棍打死,還有影片存證,連人臉都照到了,還上了電視
難道不覺得把這些廢渣全部送去核廢料場讓她們突變折磨到死才會爽嗎.....
沒把它吊在天台每晚毒打他一頓打到他老死就算不錯了<----如果法院核可這樣,那我同意廢死
老子應該會拿皮鞭和棒球棍每晚打一次...
然後在他傷口上塗上朝天椒

再送醫

出院再繼續

我絕對不虐待他
每天會給它吃一罐寶路
請勿購買韓國品牌,買伊索比亞的產品人家還會和您說謝謝,買韓國產品他們只會笑你笨再桶你一刀
小弟不解 冤案 和廢不廢死刑 有啥關聯 今天就算讓你廢死刑了 能保證 將來不會再出現冤案嗎?

別傻了 全台灣有多少冤案 只是 碰巧 他因冤案被槍決了
這和廢死 反廢死 有啥關聯 這明明就是 案件調查的過程中 出現了嚴重的問題 才會產生這種判決 難道 法官也要參予調查案件嗎??
這篇不是去年的舊文....這樣也能翻出來...=_="
我相信
就堅定反對廢死立場人士而言
死刑是對他們有嚇阻作用的
因為他們(或包括我這種反對死刑的...)
多數都不會成為觸犯死刑的刑事罪犯

但犯罪行為學研究而言
對於多數觸犯死刑的犯罪行為人而言
死刑的存在
往往是不具嚇阻意義的

對預謀行犯罪而言
他們會縝密預謀並著手
他們相信死刑這樣的刑罰不會加諸在其身上

也因此複雜的犯罪行為
往往增加更大的後續檢警刑事偵查成本與司法審判成本
並讓衍生犯罪行為更為殘暴
例如對可能的目擊證人甚至不相關第3者滅口等..

而對於衝動犯而著手觸犯死刑案件的犯罪行為人而言
當下的情感情境或是激憤或是衝動而著手犯罪
而不是理智理性思考判斷導致

台灣向來將死刑列入刑法的主刑當中
也從不是零死刑判決國家
但長期觀察
為何我國的犯罪率仍舊是爬升趨勢

死刑對犯罪行為人而言
真有嚇阻作用???

再者
如果堅信死刑真有犯罪防治嚇阻作用
何以現代刑法政策
針對死刑執行多採低調不公開行刑

如果真認為死刑有犯罪防治嚇阻作用
那就應該運用媒體科技
公開轉播執刑
至少公開死刑犯伏法照片
才能達到最大犯罪防治宣導效果

為何絕大多數保有死刑國家都是不公開執行
但是
也真的還是有部分中東國家是採公開行刑方式

但那些採公開執行生命刑或身體刑的國家
他們的司法制度或刑事立法政策
絕對不會是我們多數人所欲效法參考的國家


如果....
真的還是覺得死刑對犯罪防治有用的話???


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