搭機時發現隔壁的隔壁給我......

這方面小弟深有同感...

兩天前正好從上海到北京出差, 在回程班機衝破雲層時就看到一票人東翻西翻的掏出手機, 一副蓄勢待發的. 輪子一著地就聽到 Nokia, Samsung, Motorola, SonyEricsson, Philips 加上一大堆其他國產牌的手機開機音樂... 再加上一票的簡訊響鈴. 實在是... OOXX

飛機滑行了一陣子後, 大概有人覺得"飛機已經到達登機門了吧", 就有一票人"站起來"開始往前移動. 這時小弟心想: "鳥的勒, 這時來個緊急煞車一定很壯觀"... 大概是小弟平時燒夠香吧, 突然飛機就重踩煞車 ~ 然後就看到這一批人"一面倒"; 小弟我忍不住笑了出來. 這時這批人就回過頭來看我, 小弟就給了它一個"你活該"的眼神, 他們也沒敢說什麼就匆匆的回座位坐下了...

這時心裡真是... 爽!!!
那不是網路謠言嗎?
如果是真的早就被廢物立委拿來大作文章了
kusopala wrote:
桃園空難那場就是因為某位民代飛機還沒著地就已經打大哥大叫人來接他所發生的事....


我是恐怖份子要挾持民航機,只要改裝手機,加大發射強度
我連只要高高興興的拎著手機上飛機,
什麼檢查都不怕,然後到時候我只要拿著手機,
對全機的人說:現在這架飛機由我接管,誰敢亂動我就要打電話喔

以後說不定連手機都不能帶上飛機....

-1983年9月1日 一架韓航波音747客機飛過庫頁島附近蘇聯領空時遭蘇聯戰機擊落,269人喪生。

這一件據蘇聯那邊說,他們有呼叫但是韓航方面沒有回應。所以幹了...

後來美國方面說,韓航上面有人用電子儀器(聽說是大型的桌上型計算機),所以會干擾通訊。

陰謀論是說,韓航是美國派去偷看俄國機密的。
別把手機講得那麼恐怖
如果有手機那麼利害
那恐怖份子就不用大費周章要偷帶炸彈上機
或者從黑市弄到肩射式防空飛彈來擊落民航機
網路上的消息聽聽就好 別當真
之前還有說某次台灣西海岸外海失事的民航機
是被附近演習的戰車所打下來
如果有那麼神
就不用買愛國者飛彈啦
國軍那堆古董坦克就可以力抗PLA的二炮部隊

至於蘇聯擊落韓航的那樁事件
滿懷疑俄方說法
因為就後來的調查報告是說那架747飛錯航道
在即將誤入蘇聯領空前被蘇聯本土防空軍的Su-15所擊落
在1978年它們也用武力迫使一架波音707迫降
造成多人死傷
所以它們是累犯了
在中蘇韓邊境的領空常發生擊落無武裝的飛行器的事
北韓在60年代也擊落過美軍的預警機
其實擊落民航機的意外常發生
兩伊戰爭期間 美軍在波斯灣的軍艦也擊落過伊朗的民航機

其實禁用電子器材,是怕干擾通訊。

無論在任何情況下,通訊無法溝通,都是很恐怖的。

當然,當所有人的手錶都無故快轉了 一段時間的時候,那就更恐怖了。
通訊器材的頻率可能會干擾機長與塔台之間的通訊吧.....至於影響其他機器運作...機率太低了~~
有人可以舉例證實嗎?

話說以前飛行員控制飛機的機制,是將他施加在方向盤/踏板上的力道,藉由機械式的轉換(鋼索/齒輪/液壓等)作用在飛機的控制面(襟翼/穩定翼/舵)上,駕駛倉內的儀表所採用的原理,也泰半都很"粗勇"(電/磁/機械 相生), 現在的飛機,叫做 flight by wire,原理是用感測器去度量駕駛員施加在方向盤/踏板上的力道, 經過計算,傳令給馬達的電路再去驅動馬達,馬達再去控制飛機的控制面,所以飛行員的控制桿,基本上可以是固定不能動的,要的只是壓力值而已(突然想到,電子秤就是這樣子)駕駛倉內的儀表,基本上是畫在顯示幕(CRT/LCD)上的, 這樣的飛機,以前有個綽號叫 glass cockpit. 好, glass cockpit 要出現,首要條件是什麼? 電腦, 一大堆的電腦, 光汽車上都有幾十個cpu 了,何況是飛機? 現在,來看手機這邊, 手機 或 遙控器 的傳輸模組最種要的任務是什麼? 把訊號散發出去,很不幸的呢, 所有的導體, 都可以接收到這個訊號,強弱不同罷了, 當導體的長度符合某個原則時,可以收到最強的訊號. 大家聽過手機在喇叭/電話機/CRT 旁響時那種聲光效果嗎? 想像一下這種能量跑進去某個電腦系統,而它正在飛你坐的飛機.刺激吧, 手機的頻率是 900MHz, 1.8/1.9 GHz, 會不會覺得像電腦的頻率呢. 至於干擾通訊,對不起,飛航頻道不可能和手機頻道相關,抗干擾對通訊器材而言是基本要求,要干擾它那可就難了.大家的手機可會隨便被廣播電台/無線電視/天上的飛機/家用無線電話干擾嗎? 早期的 glass cockpit 沒有想到後來出現的各種訊號源, 後來的飛機則是有,所以後期的飛機可以題供Wi-Fi的服務.是因為它有相對應的措施. 你知道你坐的是什麼飛機嗎?我不知道,我不敢跟它賭.
就我記憶所及,有飛機的自動駕駛系統在飛行途中突然有不正常現像,觀察結果是乘客在使用cd 隨身聽的遙控器(有線無線 我忘了), 知道得越多,你會越謹慎.

cmy0512 wrote:
通訊器材的頻率可能會干擾機長與塔台之間的通訊吧.....至於影響其他機器運作...機率太低了~~
有人可以舉例證實嗎?



http://www.house.gov/transportation/aviation/hearing/07-20-00/07-20-00memo.html

內容:

In October of 1998, a Boeing 757, flying from Seattle to Covington/Cincinnati, experienced loss of all three of its autopilot systems. Flight attendants checked for a passenger using a portable electronic device and discovered a man wearing headphones, which were part of a hearing aid. The passenger was allowed to continue using the device, but was moved forward several rows. The autopilot system then regained full operational capabilities and was later checked by maintenance, with no problems being found.

In March of 1997, a Cessna 340/A pilot experienced erroneous readings when attempting to determine his location because of a passenger using a cellular phone. After the passenger turned off the phone, the pilot was able to locate his position and continue on with no problems.

In January of 1997, a regional jet was flying from Salt Lake City to Eugene. The flight crew received three separate warning messages stating that there were disagreements between the captain

In August 1995, an aircraft making its approach to George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston was advised that it was 4 miles off course. Because the course director indicators had been scalloping left and right of center, the captain ordered the flight attendant to check the cabin for any passengers using a portable electronic device. Within 15 seconds, problems with the course director indicators disappeared. The captain later learned that a passenger had been using a portable computer.

In May of 1995, the electric compass indicators of the first officer of a Boeing 737 gave erratic readings. After a sweep of the cabin was made for portable electronic devices, which resulted in flight attendants asking a passenger to turn off a compact disc player, the first officer

Shortly after takeoff from Baltimore, in April 1994, an aircraft was advised by ground control that it was 10 miles off course, though the plane

In February 1994, a turboprop aircraft flying government officials from Lake Havasu, AZ to Yuma, AZ experienced trouble with its navigational radios. Ground control showed that the airplane was off course and gave corrections. However, the plane

In August 1992, a turbojet aircraft was notified three times, by two different control towers, that it looked to be off course. All instruments in the cockpit were showing the plane

In September of 1990, a plane travelling from Boston to Youngstown/Warren, OH was advised it was off course and was issued a new heading. The plane


http://www.antony-anderson.com/cruise/rfi.html

* A DC 10 Autopilot was disrupted during final landing approach by a battery-powered CD player operated by a passenger in first-class in February 1993. To prevent the aircraft from crashing after suddenly veering off course, the pilot had manually to take control. (Source NASA)

Black Hawk Helicopter knocked out of the sky by radio waves. The Boston Globe 8 November 1987 reported that "The Army’s most advanced helicopter to carry troops into battle can be knocked out of the sky by routine radio waves from microwave towers, radio antennas and radars according to Pentagon officials and documents. Investigators believe that such radio waves made five of the Army’s UH-60 Black Hawks nose dive into the ground since 1982 killing 22 servicemen." According to the Globe, Navy Sea Hawks, which had improved protection against electromagnetic interference did not appear to suffer from the same problem. Because Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) leaves no “fingerprints”, the Army has been unable or unwilling to cite it as a cause of any other 29 Black Hawk accidents that have killed 48 servicemen since 1980. Shielding the Army Black Hawks to Navy standards would be “very costly,” Army officials said. [Army Blackhawks were however later modified.]




kusopala wrote:
飛行途中開機真的可以...(恕刪)


我試過!衛星電話真的可以通話喔!試過ACes和Thuraya兩套系統都可以使用!



小朋友不要亂試!哥哥有練過的!
FEI-FEI
有關通訊器材對航機電子儀器的影響.....最近流言終結者剛好有測試
不管他們怎麼用力測試,不論是自製模擬機艙或是實際的機艙
"一般的手機"都無法對電子儀器造成影響

話雖如此,還是遵守規定比較好.........

因為流言終結者他們無法模擬300隻電話一起使用的狀況Orz
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