HTC因為侵犯專利權而被美國禁止進口HTC One X 和 Evo 4G

你要轉貼英文新聞就專業一點
翻譯整篇給大家看看在寫甚麼
少在那斷章取義
你以為大家都看不懂英文?
A patent issue differs from copying one's design.
you should correct your comments.
實驗性質的生活 有逐夢踏實之感

foxleeuse wrote:
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再說手機被卡也不會怎麼樣,過幾天可能就解禁了
...


不過你的標題是說"禁止進口"......這與Delay應該是不同的意思。

不管怎樣~~拒用韓貨就對~~
不管怎樣~~拒用韓貨就對~~

這篇的用語比較強烈
Thanks to Apple, the HTC One X and HTC EVO 4G LTE have been banned ‘indefinitely’ from the US
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/apple-htc-one-x-and-htc-evo-4g-lte-banned-indefinitely-us/

基本上HTC認為手機應該已經沒有問題了, 所以才送美國, 但是美國海關把他擋下來說是要確認是否已經是沒有問題.


但是從這篇來看
Apple lands jab to Android with legal victory over HTC
http://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-lands-jab-to-android-with-legal-victory-over-htc/
事情似乎是沒這麼簡單.

從文裡的聯結可看到美國政府的禁止令
http://www.usitc.gov/secretary/fed_reg_notices/337/337_710_Notice12192011sgl.pdf

However, Apple and Nokia entered a settlement agreement, and on July 21, 2011, the Commission determined not to review the presiding ALJ’s termination of the investigation as to Nokia in the 710 investigation based on settlement.

Nokia 和 Apple 似乎已進入和解的階段但是HTC 似乎是沒有和 Apple 進入和解

On September 15, 2011, the Commission determined to review several issues regarding each of the four patents asserted in this investigation. 76 Fed. Reg. 58,537 (Sept. 21, 2011). The parties filed briefing on the issues under review, remedy, the public interest, and bonding. In addition, the following non-parties submitted comments on the public interest: the Association for Competitive Technology; Google Inc.; and T-Mobile USA., Inc. (“T-Mobile”).

Having examined the record of this investigation, including the ALJ’s final ID and the
aforementioned briefing and comments, the Commission has determined that there is a violation of section 337 by reason of the importation and sale of articles that infringe claims 1 and 8 of the ’647 patent. The Commission has determined to reverse the ALJ’s finding of violation as to claims 15 and 19 of the ’647 patent and as to the asserted claims of the ’263 patent. The Commission affirms the ALJ’s conclusion that there has been no violation as to the ’721 and ’983 patents.

從2011,9,15就開始審查HTC的手機並確認有侵權的證據.

The Commission has further determined that the appropriate remedy is a limited exclusion order prohibiting the entry of personal data and mobile communications devices and related software that infringe claims 1 or 8 of the ’647 patent.

所以針對個人資料輸入器和行動通訊發佈了禁止進口令

The Commission has also determined that the public interest factors enumerated in section 337(d), 19 U.S.C. § 1337(d), do not preclude the issuance of the limited exclusion order. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Commission has determined that based on consideration of competitive conditions in the United States economy, the exclusion of articles subject to the order shall commence on April 19, 2012 to provide a transition period for U.S. carriers.

這法令會在2012, 4,19號以後對美國國內的電信商生效. 也就是說 2011,9,15 ~ 2012,4,19 是緩衝期.

In addition, the Commission has determined, based on consideration of the effect of exclusion on United States consumers, that until December 19, 2013, HTC may import refurbished handsets to be provided to consumers as replacements under warranty or an insurance contract (whether the warranty or contract is offered by HTC, a carrier, or by a third party). This exemption does not permit HTC to call new devices “refurbished” and to import them as
replacements.

另外就保固的部分, HTC 只有到 2013,12,19 之前可以出口舊手機到美國做維護的動作, 之後, 在美國的所有HTC手機若是有問題, 似乎就沒有機器可換了.


換而言之, 除非HTC和Apple 進入Settlement, 支付權利金吧 (看似NOKIA都付了) or HTC 有做出新軟體來取代侵權的部份, 或是美國政府有更改他們的裁定 (我想機率是級低的), 不然我看到明年的年底, HTC 在美國就不用玩了...

國外都用 'indefinitely' delayed = 無限期延遲 對我來說就是禁止進口了.
所以...真對上述的裁示, 我覺得Delay 是國內媒體對臺灣國內講的好聽話.
看到這也傻了
連這種東西都有專利
那是不是我不能用超連結了

不過是個應用
又不是發明
搞屁啊
deathtrader wrote:
On September 15, 2011, the Commission determined to review several issues regarding each of the four patents asserted in this investigation. 76 Fed. Reg. 58,537 (Sept. 21, 2011). The parties filed briefing on the issues under review, remedy, the public interest, and bonding. In addition, the following non-parties submitted comments on the public interest: the Association for Competitive Technology; Google Inc.; and T-Mobile USA., Inc. (“T-Mobile”).

Having examined the record of this investigation, including the ALJ’s final ID and the
aforementioned briefing and comments, the Commission has determined that there is a violation of section 337 by reason of the importation and sale of articles that infringe claims 1 and 8 of the ’647 patent. The Commission has determined to reverse the ALJ’s finding of violation as to claims 15 and 19 of the ’647 patent and as to the asserted claims of the ’263 patent. The Commission affirms the ALJ’s conclusion that there has been no violation as to the ’721 and ’983 patents.

從2011,9,15就開始審查HTC的手機並確認有侵權的證據.


又有人亂說一通了,
此處所說從2011,9,15就開始審查HTC的手機並確認有侵權的證據根本就是錯的,
應該是ITC的行政法官做出ID(initial determination),
委員會(commission)在2011年9月15日決定要對行政法官的ID進行審查,
這是每一個ITC案件必經的過程,
何來"從2011,9,15就開始審查HTC的手機並確認有侵權的證據"?
不知是否蓄意要誤導一般人?

deathtrader wrote:
The Commission has also determined that the public interest factors enumerated in section 337(d), 19 U.S.C. § 1337(d), do not preclude the issuance of the limited exclusion order. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Commission has determined that based on consideration of competitive conditions in the United States economy, the exclusion of articles subject to the order shall commence on April 19, 2012 to provide a transition period for U.S. carriers.

這法令會在2012, 4,19號以後對美國國內的電信商生效. 也就是說 2011,9,15 ~ 2012,4,19 是緩衝期


委員會在2011年12月19日才發出notice判定侵權,
何來2011,9,15 ~ 2012,4,19 是緩衝期?
2011年9月15日都還不確定是侵權呢!
deathtrader wrote:
這篇的用語比較強烈T...(恕刪)


又來一個不懂裝懂的.連翻譯都亂翻譯

話說從頭.2010年蘋果告HTC.3項專利侵權開始互告.(G老大買下MOTO幫忙.HTC買下S3)展開專利大戰

互有勝負

直到2011年12月ITC才判決.HTC只違反一項軟體專利介面侵權.(就是看到網頁或文件上的電話號碼浮現就可點擊撥號).
ITC要求HTC須在2012/4/19以後進口美國商品

必須移除該專利介面.所以美國海關按判決執行日起.開始審查HTC進口的通信商品.

由於海關並不是科技專利的專職單位.所以必須送專責單位後才能確定.是否放行


foxleeuse wrote:
這個回應比較像是官方...(恕刪)


HTC已經修正,證據如下:
http://phandroid.com/2012/05/17/htc-one-x-and-evo-4g-lte-shipping-with-custom-software-builds-to-work-around-apple-patent/
新聞已經爆出來了 不是禁止進口 而是被扣留海關 等待審查 審查通過以後就可以進入了
因為OneX本身就已經在當地販售了 所以沒有受到影響(只是庫存會受影響而已)
EVO 4G LTE才會受到上市時間影響 總之 HTC早就修改有專利疑慮的部分了 不怕被抓包
這次扣押 個人認為是某牌做梗 不希望HTC太快搶市 呵呵
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