請問GORE-TEX 2件式的外套好嗎.結合那個品牌比較好


TCBB wrote:
softshell並...(恕刪)


Patagonia的刷毛內層很頂級耶


TCBB wrote:
softshell並...(恕刪)


其實要看各公司的定義,防水的softshell
如前面大大提到的MHW Synchro jacket,OR Motto jacket
個人在大雨中都試過,防水性都沒問題
不過透氣度較一般的softshell差一些,騎車倒是很好用

另外,預算不是問題的話,Arc'teryx,Mammut,Patagonia...
很多都可以挑
同事穿山頂鳥特價的Gore-tex外套+薄的羽絨衣當中層
看他也穿的很開心,也很不錯


外層2layer狗鐵絲內層700down $599
Patagonia Men's Primo Down Jacket

Our warmest, most protective freeriding jacket features 700-fill-power European goose down with a durable, waterproof/breathable 2-layer GORE-TEX® Performance Shell - a combination that keeps you comfortable in the coldest, wettest conditions.

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-primo-down-gore-tex-jacket?p=30470-0-425

始祖鳥的那件
蔣大有開箱

LKK自己穿北臉(波士頓)
Snowboarding外套
600down 外層HyVent
臺灣要很冷寒流來才穿得到
有幫我學長弄一件回臺灣




The Outdoor Research Men's Motto Jacket has a water-resistant softshell exterior to shed moisture and wind, and a fleece lining adds plenty of warmth for frigid weather. Excellent breathability makes the Motto Jacket a solid choice for aerobic winter pursuits like backcountry skiing and alpine climbing. Remove the helmet-compatible hood and powder skirt to strip some weight from this Outdoor Research softshell on trips where ounces matter.

With the Synchro SBT fabric you have the stretch and breathability of soft shell with all ... AXF Super DWR finish repels water 5 times longer than standard DWRs


我說過全新軟殼防水性一定比較好
不代表可以當雨衣穿
原因是DWR

TCBB wrote:
外層2layer狗鐵...(恕刪)


GTX也不可能完全防水阿

卡比熊 wrote:
GTX也不可能完全防水阿...(恕刪)


水壓要很大,水分子才會透過gtx.
不過OR的官網是這麼說的

The M's Motto Jacket™ is a descent-inspired soft shell that offers maximum weather protection on bitter cold ski days. The fully waterproof Ventia™ soft shell fabric allows snow to glide right off, while the clean-finished, seam-taped interior slides comfortably over layers. The large, helmet compatible hood can be zipped off and stored in the zippered rear stash pocket.

Proprietary to Outdoor Research, Ventia™ fabrics provide a waterproof/breathable barrier, offering storm-level weather protection and active-use comfort. Products utilizing Ventia™ are waterproof/breathable by construction, keeping the wearer protected from wet and cold weather while maintaining comfort by allowing excess heat and moisture to escape.

今年冬季有新外套(neoshell,eVent給各廠牌掛自己名子的)的出現,不知是否有人可以挑戰GTX?
標榜防水的軟殼有個缺點,因為表層終究是軟殼,防潑水不如真正的風雨衣,
像登山常遇到雨中行進一整天,長時間淋雨後軟殼表布較風雨衣表布更容易潮濕,
就算水沒滲進裡層,衣服還是會變重,掛在身上並不舒服,
所以如果要極限使用,還是買件專用風雨衣會比較好。

不過,如果是一般狀況使用,防水軟殼檔中小雨一小時還沒問題,旅行時有測試過,

但不管是風雨衣還是軟殼,再頂級的廠牌也需要正確的清潔保養,請記得善待他,
適當地清洗,至少一年補一次防撥水,才不會雨打表層就濕。

至於防撥水的維持度,跟廠牌也有不小關連,頂級廠防撥水的壽命較長也比較持久,也不需要頻繁補防潑水,
像我的Arc'teryx Venta SV,買了第二年才需要補防潑水,第一年清洗後竟然防潑水劑還噴不太上去,給我華麗地沿衣服流下來=_=

借用維京山屋的文章,裡面有很詳盡的講解
維京山屋 清潔與保養篇

goin.wu wrote:
標榜防水的軟殼有個缺...(恕刪)


GTX有專用的防潑水劑嗎?


卡比熊 wrote:
GTX有專用的防潑水...(恕刪)


有的.如果不用防潑水,那你的GTX表布會吸水..但請放心他還是防水的.水不會穿過薄膜的,

但是這樣會變重..活動起來不方便.
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