Darren Wu wrote:
帳面上的馬力與扭力...(恕刪)


Sorry 沒說清楚

根據報導 這個引擎搭載在B9 A4上才有整體結果

新世代B9 A4也上了輕量化技術(少100kg) 對油耗幫助也很大

柴油還是有它的優勢在... 車體輕量化 油耗會更好

hbd wrote:
汽油吃得少就怕機油討...(恕刪)


我的2013年生產的A6 2.0T 每10000公里保養 機油尺掉1/5 200cc

現在已跑50000公里了 都是這樣 算正常了吧

你的還有嘛?
Naricissistic, my god I love it
這顆引擎其實就是Gen3 EA888的低功率版~2013年就已經裝在車上了


Probaby wrote:
這顆引擎其實就是Gen3 EA888的低功率版~2013年就已經裝在車上了
除了引擎本體一樣外其它進氣與供油點火方式都與EA888不同的引擎你還能說只是「低功率版」、從2013年就裝在車上喔?你乾脆說EA888只是EA113的高功率版,從2004年就已經裝在車上好了,反正引擎本體一樣對吧?

blhsing wrote:
除了引擎本體一樣外...(恕刪)


進氣不都是T/C?

供油系統不一樣~?

同一顆引擎延伸出許多不同版本不是一件很正常的事嗎?

對應不同車型需求做些微設變應該也很正常吧~?

還是你認為只要有一個地方不同就叫做新引擎~?
Probaby wrote:
進氣不都是T/C?

供油系統不一樣~?

同一顆引擎延伸出許多不同版本不是一件很正常的事嗎?

對應不同車型需求做些微設變應該也很正常吧~?

還是你認為只要有一個地方不同就叫做新引擎~?
我在上一頁的講解你似乎沒看到。光是採用Atkinson cycle讓進氣閥門延遲關閉以增高壓縮比,以及供油方面改採用多點噴射搭配缸內直噴,就讓這具引擎與之前的特性完全不同了,怎能說是微調?

一般所謂的同一具引擎針對不同車型需求微調指的是調整增壓與ECU之類與引擎設計運作無關的更動而已OK?

hbd wrote:
汽油吃得少就怕機油...(恕刪)


我的b8.5 2.0tq都沒再吃機油了,應該現在不太會有這種問題了

blhsing wrote:
我在上一頁的講解你...(恕刪)

2代EA888跟3代EA888
實際上開起來就差很多了....

blhsing wrote:
我稍微讀了一下這顆...(恕刪)



不知道, 是英文 or 技術有問題..還是外行人來解釋內行人的問題.....差太多了吧...
Audi 提高壓縮比的,高效率稀薄燃燒.....比起..偷馬力的 Atkinson cycle.用降低壓比, 降低燃燒效率是兩碼事吧...


Modern Atkinson cycle engines[edit]

A small engine with Atkinson-style linkages between the piston and flywheel. Modern Atkinson cycle engines do away with this complex energy path.
Recently, the term "Atkinson cycle" has been used to describe a modified Otto cycle engine in which the intake valve is held open longer than normal to allow a reverse flow of intake air into the intake manifold. The effective compression ratio is reduced (for a time the air is escaping the cylinder freely rather than being compressed) but the expansion ratio is unchanged. This means the compression ratio is smaller than the expansion ratio. Heat gained from burning fuel increases the pressure, thereby forcing the piston to move, expanding the air volume beyond the volume when compression began. The goal of the modern Atkinson cycle is to allow the pressure in the combustion chamber at the end of the power stroke to be equal to atmospheric pressure; when this occurs, all the available energy has been obtained from the combustion process. For any given portion of air, the greater expansion ratio allows more energy to be converted from heat to useful mechanical energy meaning the engine is more efficient.

The disadvantage of the four-stroke Atkinson cycle engine versus the more common Otto cycle engine is reduced power density. Due to a smaller portion of the compression stroke being devoted to compressing the intake air, an Atkinson cycle engine does not take in as much air as would a similarly designed and sized Otto cycle engine.

suarthur wrote:
不知道, 是英文 or 技術有問題..還是外行人來解釋內行人的問題.....差太多了吧...
Audi 提高壓縮比的,高效率稀薄燃燒.....比起..偷馬力的 Atkinson cycle.用降低壓比, 降低燃燒效率是兩碼事吧...
我想是你的英文閱讀或理解能力有問題。Audi自己在官方新聞稿裡都說這顆新引擎的重點是採用「與Miller cycle相同概念」的技術了,只差沒有使用Miller cycle的機械增壓,而使用Miller cycle卻沒有使用機械增壓就是使用Atkinson cycle。

Audi文宣:"The breakthrough of the 2.0 TFSI lies in a new combustion method. At its core its principle is comparable to the Miller cycle."

Atkinson cycle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_cycle
"Four-stroke engines of this type that use the same type of intake valve motion but with a supercharger to make up for the loss of power density are known as Miller cycle engines."

Miller cycle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_cycle#Atkinson_cycle_engine
"A similar delayed-valve closing method is used in some modern versions of Atkinson cycle engines, but without the supercharging."
引擎面積與使用材質,到是比較想知道。
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