g8520 wrote:
http://www...(恕刪)
讚~~我寧願買拼裝貨回家組裝
邊組邊摩改
也不要嘴砲打打
而且會做潛艦是先進國家指標之一
希望這次真的成局
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Dr Evil wrote:
美國造潛艦遇到問題不...(恕刪)
So...全球最強潛艦大國的失誤經驗,
對一個建造潛艦從零開始的國家沒有任何參考價值?
也罷!就見仁見智吧!
我還真找了一下巴基斯坦的經驗,
這國家雖然也幾乎從零開始,
但是看來是有貴人相助:
toga
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Tajikistan
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 01:49:49
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巴基斯坦的三艘Augusta 90B柴電潛艇興建法：
第一艘：法國原廠完成整艘潛艇後交予巴國海軍。
第二艘：法國原廠完成部份船體建造，然後將半成品與其它組件運往巴國，在法國工程師的完整監督指導下，在巴國當地完成整艘潛艇。
第三艘：在法國技轉授權之後，完全由巴國自行興建。
而為了自行興建潛艦，克拉蚩船廠所受到的法國與中國方面的協助有：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachi_Shipyard
In the 1990s KSEW received technology from France for building the Agosta 90B Khalid class submarine. The technology was mostly related to construction of the pressure hull and out-fitting of the submarine. Drawings, computer aided design tools and more than 20,000 technical documents from France were transferred. Training programs for 300 engineers and technicians took place in France and another 600 personnel were trained in Pakistan. In 1995, surveys and upgrades to naval dockyard infrastructure were carried out by French personnel which included a section building hall, combined outfitting workshop, pipe-bending workshop, hull fabrication workshop, grit blasting and painting facility, dock lift system and a pickling and etching plant. The third Agosta 90B submarine, PNS Hamza, was constructed with the newly developed MESMA air-independent propulsion unit, while the first two (PNS Khalid and PNS Saad) will be retro-fitted during their next overhauls with a "plug" containing a MESMA AIP unit. The submarine's hull will be cut and the plug inserted. The second MESMA unit was shipped in June 2011.
The next submarine project will see KSEW jointly involved with Chinese company CSOC (China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Co. Ltd.) in the design and construction of six submarines equipped with air-independent propulsion (AIP). These will be designed to Pakistani specifications and four will be built at a CSOC shipyard in China, while two will be constructed by KSEW. It is believed that little upgrading of facilities is required because much of the current infrastructure meets the requirements. The preliminary negotiations were reported to be completed in March 2011. It was earlier believed that the project would involve China's Type-041 Yuan class submarine, which had been mentioned by Admiral Noman Bashir, Chief of Naval Staff, several times since 2009.
一萌二PAK三聯閃，四代歐風五國潘，十全側衛百戰鷹，成千蟲隼萬國繁。
對台灣潛艦案的簡單分析（個人觀點）
此外有件事我也很疑惑,
據新聞內容所言:
國防部過去雖年年持續編列潛艦第一階段可行性評估作業費，因美方連潛艦商源都沒著落，連匯給美方的機會都沒有，最後只好繳回國庫；而對於台灣軍方決定潛艦國造，美方至今也未表示任何意見。
記得十年前美國國會的態度是希望售台潛艦由美國製造,
這樣造艦獲得的利益可以最大程度留在美國,
所以現在美國國會態度有所轉變?
又或台灣也如同巴基斯坦找到貴人相助?
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