AIT 理事 David Brown 對服貿事件的看法


新聞報導中文節錄 http://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20140329003585-260401

英文原文 :

NELSON REPORT: David Brown on Hsiao Bi-khim's letter

Thanks for sharing Bi-Khim's open letter. She deserves respect, but this piece is a partisan statement of DPP views on the current crisis in the LY. That's her job, of course.

You and others will note that it omits much of the story concerning the STA, which the DPP has opposed from its signing last June. She conveniently omits the DPP's record of obstruction of LY consideration of the agreement. That began in the special LY session last fall and continued with dilatory handling of forums on the agreement.

The week before March 17, the DPP had repeatedly prevented the planned article by article review of the STA at the LY committee level. That obstructionism was the proximate incentive for the KMT to ram through a decision moving the STA from committee to plenary consideration on Mar. 18.

It is remarkable that the students reacted so quickly that same evening to occupy the LY. . The KMT has accused the DPP of instigating this action, an accusation that many believe. Unnamed DPP politicians were reportedly on the scene later that evening; and the party endorsed the action the following day, and then encouraged all its members to support the students' illegal occupation.

A DPP poll published a few days earlier had indicated that a plurality of DPP members (40%) were dissatisfied with the party's knee-jerky opposition to every step forward in cross-strait relations. So rather than have the DPP LY caucus responsible for continuing to block consideration of the STA, wasn't it in the DPP's interest to have students play that role?

Bi-Khim portrays this as a struggle for democracy. It's really another fundamental clash of approaches toward the mainland and toward Taiwan's future. But if its about democracy, is the DPP's repeated physical blocking of LY action democratic?

The DPP's problem is that the KMT, divided as it is, has a LY majority, and the DPP will go to whatever lengths are necessary to block the majority when their key interests are involved or when it suits the DPP's election mobilization goals to exploit issues for political advantage.

I suspect that the fall election is a key consideration in how the party is handling the issue. In this country we would not permit such obstruction to occur in the Congress, and we would not view the DPP's obstruction tactics as legitimate democratic action.

Taiwan is a democracy in transition. It faces challenges and some of those challenges come from the DPP.

Kelvin_liu_2005 wrote:
新聞報導中文節錄 h...(恕刪)


他們會跟你說AIT算個屁
紐時頭版廣告沒看到?
nelson report有經濟學人權威?
懂?

Kelvin_liu_2005 wrote:
新聞報導中文節錄 h...(恕刪)


美國阿爸截至目前爲止最高層級的回應
學運一整個被打臉了....

mattandloli wrote:
他們會跟你說AIT算...(恕刪)


AIT 理事的看法應該代表美國官方的立場吧?

如果 Nelson Report 沒有重要性, 那麼蕭美琴為什麼要投書?

也算她雖, 投書引來 AIT 裡事的回信把 DPP 好好的批一頓

Kelvin_liu_2005 wrote:
新聞報導中文節錄 h...(恕刪)


評鑑彭懷南10A總裁的刊物都有人說 那只不過是間25人不到 發行量也不到5萬的東西

彭懷南支持 全民就要支持嗎
再懂也沒有PTT不知名人士懂
選我選我選我選我選我選我
看了連結底下的回應

實在令人啼笑皆非




我還能說甚麼呢?


1.蕭美琴的投書以及這次學運,跨越美國政府紅線,才會造成美國政府對台那麼高級層次官員,以如此公開方式打臉。不止打蕭美琴的臉,連民進黨的臉都打那麼重。

2.美國政府已經對這次學運,正式警告民進黨,不要再玩下去。其中,顯然對霸佔立法院,除了指出民進黨立委,還暗示王金平,都在幫助學生行動。

3.顯然,老美已經不相信馬英九政府能處理這次學運,而正式點名交由民進黨解決。馬英九丟臉丟到全球?

但是,權力使人傲慢

.學運頭頭是否繼續聽從民進黨,願意儘快退場將是關鍵。
個人翻譯有誤敬請見諒,歡迎指正
感謝
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NELSON REPORT: David Brown on Hsiao Bi-khim's letter 
NELSON REPORT:David Brown論蕭美琴之公開信

Thanks for sharing Bi-Khim's open letter. She deserves respect, but this piece is a partisan statement of DPP views on the current crisis in the LY. That's her job, of course.
感謝分享蕭美琴的公開信。她值得我們尊重,但這是一份民進黨觀點的當前立法院危機的聲明。當然,這是她的工作。

You and others will note that it omits much of the story concerning the STA, which the DPP has opposed from its signing last June. She conveniently omits the DPP's record of obstruction of LY consideration of the agreement. That began in the special LY session last fall and continued with dilatory handling of forums on the agreement. 
你及其他人會發現其中忽略了很多關於STA的詳情;對其民進黨從去年六月就反對至今。她很方便的忽略了民進黨過往阻撓立院考量對其通過的記錄。此事從去年秋季的特別會期開始一直持續到拖延公聽會的召開。

The week before March 17, the DPP had repeatedly prevented the planned article by article review of the STA at the LY committee level. That obstructionism was the proximate incentive for the KMT to ram through a decision moving the STA from committee to plenary consideration on Mar. 18.
本周在三月17日前,民進黨反複的阻止在法院委員會層級計畫中的STA逐條審查。這樣的阻撓刺激了國民黨強勢通過決議在3月18將STA從委員會送交院會。

It is remarkable that the students reacted so quickly that same evening to occupy the LY. . The KMT has accused the DPP of instigating this action, an accusation that many believe. Unnamed DPP politicians were reportedly on the scene later that evening; and the party endorsed the action the following day, and then encouraged all its members to support the students' illegal occupation.
學生能如此快速的反應並在當晚佔領立院十分令人注目。國民黨指控民進黨扇動了此一行為,許多人也相信這個說法。據報數名民進黨政客當晚出現在現場;隔日民進黨也為次行動背書且鼓勵所有黨員支持學生的違法佔領。

A DPP poll published a few days earlier had indicated that a plurality of DPP members (40%) were dissatisfied with the party's knee-jerky opposition to every step forward in cross-strait relations. So rather than have the DPP LY caucus responsible for continuing to block consideration of the STA, wasn't it in the DPP's interest to have students play that role?
民進黨在幾天前發佈了一份民調顯示多數的民進黨黨員(40%)對於該黨有如本能反射式的反對兩岸關係發展感到不滿。所以與其讓民進黨黨團對於持續阻擋STA負責,難道他們不希望由學生來辦演這個角色嗎?

Bi-Khim portrays this as a struggle for democracy. It's really another fundamental clash of approaches toward the mainland and toward Taiwan's future. But if its about democracy, is the DPP's repeated physical blocking of LY action democratic?
美琴將這個狀況描述成民主困境。這是確實是另一個對中國接觸與對於台灣未來的本質上的衝擊。但假如這件事攸關民主,民進黨反複實質上阻擋立法院的舉動是民主的嗎?

The DPP's problem is that the KMT, divided as it is, has a LY majority, and the DPP will go to whatever lengths are necessary to block the majority when their key interests are involved or when it suits the DPP's election mobilization goals to exploit issues for political advantage.
民進黨的問題是與其對立的國民黨在國會佔有多數,而當優關民進黨核心議題或民進黨認為可以利用議題來獲得選舉上的優勢時,他們會竭盡所能的阻檔"多數"。

I suspect that the fall election is a key consideration in how the party is handling the issue. In this country we would not permit such obstruction to occur in the Congress, and we would not view the DPP's obstruction tactics as legitimate democratic action.
我懷疑影響民進黨對於這件事情的處理方式的真正關鍵是秋季的選舉。在我國我們不會在國會容忍這樣的阻撓,我們也不會將這樣的阻撓戰術視為一個民主的行為。

Taiwan is a democracy in transition. It faces challenges and some of those challenges come from the DPP.
台灣的民主正面臨轉型。它面臨各式各樣的挑戰而其中一部分挑戰正是來自民進黨。
事實證明

台灣或許有一群傻瓜,但美國絕對不是蠢蛋

美國只不過是表態:wtf就算你想外銷轉進口,麻煩你也別拿這種東西來侮辱我的智商好嗎?別怪我不給你面子啊!

美國的意識形態是國家利益至上的,對於只顧個人和政黨利益而罔顧國家利益的人,他們實際上是非常瞧不起的
http://iservice.libertytimes.com.tw/liveNews/news.php?no=978697&type=國際&Slots=BInt

自由時報有引用中央社新聞, 直到現在,蘋果有報五個裸上身女子現身凱道,但沒報導AIT回應。
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