Toyota probes take a new turn
因Toyota說法無法解釋全部2000多件暴衝事件
美國展開一波全新的調查 這次要聚焦於電子節氣閥系統
Toyota對調查委員說得故事跟對社會大眾說的不一樣
對大眾宣稱地板墊跟油門踏板就是兇手
對調查員卻說他們無法確定那就是原因
而地板墊或油門踏板都無法解釋那些"油門全開"的暴衝事件
In a letter to Toyota, they accused the automaker of telling the public one story about its engine electronics and a different one to committee investigators in recent meetings.
The letter alleges that while Toyota was assuring the public the problem involved only floor mats and sticking pedals, its executives were acknowledging to his committee's investigators that they couldn't be sure about the causes and that reports of vehicles accelerating under wide-open throttles could not be explained by sticky pedals.
Toyota在媒體對大眾保證 電子問題絕對不是暴衝原因
Waxman/Stupak說 他們想看該公司內可以證實其說法的文件
In a media blitz this week aimed at reassuring the public, Toyota executives have insisted that electronic problems are not behind the reports of sudden acceleration.
Waxman and Stupak said they wanted to see the company's documents "that substantiate this claim."
該信也提出質疑Toyota何時知道加油踏板是有問題的
對外宣稱他們十月下旬才知道 對調查委員卻說是在四月或五月
The letter also raises questions about when Toyota knew that it had a defect in its accelerator pedals. Although it has publicly said that it became aware of the problems in late October, it told the committee staff that it first learned of the issue in April or May.
Waxman is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which plans to hold a hearing on Toyota's action Feb. 25.
謊話連篇的Toyota被踢爆
信用跟商譽一起破產了
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purewater10 wrote:
Toyota pro...(恕刪)
剪接文章也太厲害了吧
斷章取義
原文在此
我講的很清楚了
這件事被國會介入
就跟台灣立法院做秀一樣
基本上那封信是國會議員寫的
很正常
作作秀炒新聞
這在台灣好像天天發生
The potential for electronic defects in Toyota vehicles to cause sudden acceleration came under intensifying scrutiny Tuesday as both federal safety regulators and congressional leaders said they had begun new probes of the issue.
Toyota has blamed more than 2,000 reported cases of sudden acceleration in its vehicles over the last decade on floor mats and sticky gas pedals, triggering massive recalls worldwide. The automaker has insisted that it knows of no electronic defect that could cause drivers to lose control of its vehicles.
But federal safety regulators disclosed Tuesday that they had begun a "fresh review" of the electronic throttle system in Toyota and Lexus vehicles, which connect a driver's foot to the engine through sensors, computers and wires, rather than a mechanical link. Regulators are also considering civil fines against the automaker for its handling of the recall, an official said.
The action comes after a growing number of independent experts have voiced doubt about Toyota's explanation, saying it cannot account for all the reports of sudden acceleration and that part of the blame may rest with the electronic throttle system. The Times reported last fall that complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles skyrocketed with the introduction of electronic throttles.
Although Toyota has denied that electronics are to blame, those statements came under sharp attack Tuesday by Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) and Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), whose staffs are investigating the company.
In a letter to Toyota, they accused the automaker of telling the public one story about its engine electronics and a different one to committee investigators in recent meetings.
The letter alleges that while Toyota was assuring the public the problem involved only floor mats and sticking pedals, its executives were acknowledging to his committee's investigators that they couldn't be sure about the causes and that reports of vehicles accelerating under wide-open throttles could not be explained by sticky pedals.
Toyota representatives acknowledged to the committee that a sticky pedal might remain in a slightly depressed position, the letter said, but "they said that this would not lead to full-throttle acceleration." The letter also quotes Toyota representatives as acknowledging that it is "very, very hard to identify" the causes of sudden acceleration.
In a media blitz this week aimed at reassuring the public, Toyota executives have insisted that electronic problems are not behind the reports of sudden acceleration.
Waxman and Stupak said they wanted to see the company's documents "that substantiate this claim."
The letter also raises questions about when Toyota knew that it had a defect in its accelerator pedals. Although it has publicly said that it became aware of the problems in late October, it told the committee staff that it first learned of the issue in April or May.
Waxman is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which plans to hold a hearing on Toyota's action Feb. 25.
Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons said the company would "continue to cooperate" with federal regulators. He did not comment on the congressional investigation.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, meanwhile, said in a statement that it would meet for the first time with outside safety experts, as well as manufacturers and suppliers, to review the potential that electronic defects are part of the problem. The statement cautioned that the agency was conducting a "background examination" of the issue and that it did not have any reason to believe that Toyota vehicles have an electronic defect.
The agency acknowledged that it has done "very limited testing" of possible electronic defects, but left open the possibility that it might engage in "thorough research testing of a range of vehicles under circumstances that introduce [electronic interference] to see whether the electronic systems in those vehicles can be affected . . . in any way that causes safety problems."
The statement signals a major shift in NHTSA's position since last fall, when it told The Times that it had extensively investigated the potential for hidden electronic defects and had not found any evidence of one.
NHTSA was without an appointed chief for most of last year. David Strickland, a former congressional staffer with extensive experience in auto safety regulation, took command of the agency in late December.
The new scrutiny on electronics issues represents a key development in auto safety, comparable to the explosive investigation conducted in Ford Explorer rollovers caused by defective Firestone tires a decade ago, said Clarence Ditlow, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety.
"Toyota's unintended acceleration is going to be a watershed," Ditlow said. "It is a problem so big that NHTSA can no longer sweep it under the carpet, and they are finally going to have to look at it."
Ditlow said that NTHSA has acknowledged, in response to a recent request under the Freedom of Information Act, that it could not find any records that explain or document how it has investigated potential electronic defects in Toyota vehicles.
On Tuesday, Ditlow sent a stinging letter to Strickland asserting that the agency lacked a basis for any kind of engineering assessment of the problem.
"NHTSA can't say what it did, how it did it or what the results were," Ditlow said in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Times. "All across America, if not the world, Toyota owners are asking if they will be the next victim of unintended acceleration. . . ."
Separately, NHTSA issued a wide-ranging demand for information to CTS, the Indiana supplier that makes gas pedals that Toyota has said can stick. The agency is investigating whether CTS pedals sold to other carmakers may have the same problem, indicating the need for more recalls.
In an e-mail sent Monday, NHTSA asked for CTS' customer lists, testing data and information on design changes.
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The statement signals a major shift in NHTSA's position since last fall, when it told The Times that it had extensively investigated the potential for hidden electronic defects and had not found any evidence of one.
這幾句話
可以看出 NHTSA 做過什麼
反正國會最大
之前測試過通通不算
被質疑之後
反正倒楣的不是 NHTSA
就在繼續玩下去
基本上跟台灣疫苗一樣
一些所謂的專家
在媒體上亂咬一下
然後一堆專業的人
在哪裡嘔的要死
重頭在做同樣的事一便
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purewater10 wrote:
美國專家說得你不信美...(恕刪)
美國政府
那我就來講作過什麼
Fxxd Expxxxxx/Firesxxxx
廠內文件在 1989 年就指出
輪胎有剝落現象可能會翻車
這台車在 1990 年以 1991 車款上市
1992 六月開始第一件死亡事件
94 年三死
95 三死
96 四死
97 12 死
98 4 死
99 10 死
從頭到尾
兩家 F 公司內部都知道這件事
直到 2000 年初
律師開始告訴
兩家 F 公司跟政府都沒動作
直到 2000 八月壓不住了
NHTSA 才正式有動作
這就是美國政府如何保護自己的企業
到 2000 年政府介入時
總共死了 68 人
有沒有作秀炒炒新聞
自己看一下吧
順便看一下哪兩位參議員是哪兩個洲的
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krispykreme wrote:
美國政府
那我就來講作過什麼
Fxxd Expxxxxx/Firesxxxx
廠內文件在 1989 年就指出
輪胎有剝落現象可能會翻車
這台車在 1990 年以 1991 車款上市
1992 六月開始第一件死亡事件
94 年三死
95 三死
96 四死
97 12 死
98 4 死
99 10 死
從頭到尾
兩家 F 公司內部都知道這件事
直到 2000 年初
律師開始告訴
兩家 F 公司跟政府都沒動作
直到 2000 八月壓不住了
NHTSA 才正式有動作
這就是美國政府如何保護自己的企業
到 2000 年政府介入時
總共死了 68 人
有沒有作秀炒炒新聞
自己看一下吧
順便看一下哪兩位參議員是哪兩個洲的
...(恕刪)
他們是不是炒作新聞那是他們家的事
我只知道廣大的泛豐田台灣車主大家是拿命在拼的(包括我在內)
哪怕只是那百萬的機率, 大家都不願發生在自己身上
大家要知道的是真相
美國政府有任何調查的動作對廣大的車主都是多一份安心
真金不怕火煉, 有問題就有問題
沒問題也不可能硬栽贓
都還沒開始查你就先以偏蓋全
省省吧! 這讓曾經因為暴衝的受害車主情何以堪
一堆事實跟數據擺在眼前
等調查都過了你再大聲也不遲啊!
這對你我或是豐田來說都是好事一樁
也請你了解身為車主們的感受
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