Katong wrote:拜訪遼寧省工商銀行(一級行)時, 依據它們提供的簡報資料, 發現利息收入與放款餘額不符, 經詢問後, 他們承認有一些無法產生利息收入的放款仍然掛在帳上.
當年彰銀的特別股標售...(恕刪)那請問一下是誰說的? 可否開釋一下?
讓大家知道從何得知工銀可能做假帳,有什麼資料來源嗎?
誠心請教 !
Brodylin wrote:
是在正式的財報裡看出問題來, 一起參訪的是很多台灣的銀行從業人員, 大陸的所有經濟或財報數字, 只能參考不要當真, 否則你會死得很慘.
你是說負責簽證中國A股財報的會計師,負責簽證H股財報的香港會計師和
負責簽證美國財報的美國會計師全部都沒看出來,而被一群台灣來的銀行從業人員看出來嗎?
還是說所謂的 "正式財報"只是關於該支行的財務?
我是不否認任何數據都有可能經過人為的操弄.
但我不解的是您所拜訪的單位,為何會願意將假的數據製成書面資料,向一群外人匯報.
被質疑以後,也竟然沒有自圓其說,竟然坦承
"承認有一些無法產生利息收入的放款仍然掛在帳上" ?
這一點,我是比較不解.
不過, 放眼過去四大國行上市至今,有投資的人,個個都賺錢,沒有人死得很慘.
NIM dropped 8bps QoQ, the highest among H-share banks’ reported FY12
results so far. Management guided that 75% and 50% of deposits and loans,
respectively, were re-priced at end 2012; and Feb 2013 NIM is 4bps lower than
NIM at end-2012, and NIM continues to decline in March. As NIM contracted
in 4Q, we believe NIM at year end will be lower than 4Q12; thus, we estimate
1Q13 NIM could contract ~10bps. Management expects interest rate deregulation
will speed up.
Other income: Fee income went up by 6% QoQ, in line with our expectation.
RMB4bn of gain from F/X products beat our estimate. However, we believe
this income could be volatile and may not repeat in coming periods.
Asset quality better than expected. Year-end NPL balance is flat QoQ, NPL
ratio went down by 2bps QoQ. Loans overdue for more than 90 days stayed flat
HoH, and loans overdue less than 90 days declined by 21% HoH.
Loan & deposits growth. Loan growth in 4Q is 2%, slightly lower than
industry growth of 3%. Deposit growth is flat QoQ, vs. the industry average of
2% QoQ.
WMP. Year-end balance of WMP is ~RMB1trn, 20% is principal guarantee,
and 100% of this will mature within one year. 80% of WMP is non principal
guarantee, and 55% will mature within one year.
台灣銀行業的從業人員???

Katong wrote:
當年彰銀的特別股標售...(恕刪)
那請問一下是誰說的? 可否開釋一下?
讓大家知道從何得知工銀可能做假帳,有什麼資料來源嗎?
誠心請教 !
要我提證據,我的確沒有。
我只是側面地從很多管道得到一個結論,大陸的數據(包含 GDP)不能盡信。我也不是單針對工商銀行而已。其他的浦發銀行、包鋼股份、華夏銀行、民生銀行、寶鋼股份…的數據,我也是這樣認定的。因為已經發生過很多陸企假帳的事件(google: fake accounting china company)。
你說國營公司會比較誠信,可以問問貴州茅台。
我支持證所稅 ( http://www.hoamon.info/blog/2012/12/15/2013_capital_tax_type.html )


























































































